tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post8704078275201060398..comments2024-03-28T07:16:35.912-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: Indiana Tech Law Prof. Adam Lamparello writes snotty poor-little-me memoir about his disillusionment with practicing law, hookers, cocaine, his church, his frat, his girlfriends, and his alleged eating disorder. Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-49137719211791934732015-03-27T10:00:08.969-06:002015-03-27T10:00:08.969-06:00In case you're wondering who oversaw this clow...In case you're wondering who oversaw this clown at Loyola when he was first becoming a professor, you could contact Mary Algero:<br /><br />http://law.loyno.edu/bio/mary-garvey-algeroAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-62757492565102470912014-05-19T18:13:28.873-06:002014-05-19T18:13:28.873-06:00SNIPERSHOT! YES!SNIPERSHOT! YES!Law School Truth Centerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13166092871374037640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-18533569804953134562014-05-19T16:31:37.204-06:002014-05-19T16:31:37.204-06:00It's obvious what this website is really about...It's obvious what this website is really about. A handful of disgruntled students who failed at making it in the legal profession decide to go after someone who actually made a name for himself in that world. If you took out huge loans and afterwards, felt that you were lied to, welcome to the real world. That's your problem. Attacking a man personally after he writes a book in which he has the guts to admit to his personal struggles is pathetic, and everyone here knows it. Someone here said that in the legal profession, the shit rises to the top. Maybe, but it's clear from this site that it also sinks to the bottom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-74222249887586114002014-01-14T08:25:30.495-07:002014-01-14T08:25:30.495-07:00I am interested to know if any of you have ever me...I am interested to know if any of you have ever met him. I have. He is one of the few law professors I have had that was willing to meet and assist students at anytime, for whatever reason, so most of his students got to know him well. Look, I share your distaste and disillusionment with law school, having spent more money and time then any sane person would have to achieve a degree that basically has counted for nothing. I don't agree, however, with your decision to tear down a man. If your goal is to go after the system, go after the system. If you don't like who they hire, go after their hiring process. I think it's sad and wrong to belittle a man's struggles under the guise of attacking the system. Also, I think perhaps you should stay away from diagnosing how "mild" people's disorders are. I can assure you, having been there, his was anything but mild. Again, say what you want about law school, but Lamparello and his quick teaching style were one of the only highlights of my law school experience. Funnily enough, if you chose to speak with most of his students, I think you would get a similar response. Seeing as your attack is based on the idea that he couldn't possibly be a good law professor (which is clearly the actual basis of this article; it's not a book review) I figured perhaps you would want to know that. I used to really enjoy this blog, but now I am honestly questioning the research you actually do before writing. I would hope that before you decide to write something so arbitrarily hurtful and cruel about a person (not a book, not a system- a person) that you research. He taught me that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-11214966799493366932013-10-05T09:29:48.246-06:002013-10-05T09:29:48.246-06:00Your comment seems fixated on law firm life, thoug...Your comment seems fixated on law firm life, though. Why is that? There are lawyers working for city, state and federal agencies to whom your remarks have no bearing at all. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-63317008198773349562013-09-09T03:38:51.687-06:002013-09-09T03:38:51.687-06:00Indiana Tech has zero ethics to employ someone who...Indiana Tech has zero ethics to employ someone who does the things this professor has. Even worse, they retain someone who proudly admits to this litany of immorality and law-breaking.<br /><br />The ABA has zero ethics for doing nothing about this law professor working for a school they accredit. As the theoretical regulator of legal education, the ABA is doing worse than nothing - they are blessing the hiring of shockingly unethical law-breakers as professors.<br /><br />The ABA and Indiana tech are liars for pretending to uphold any ethical standard whatsoever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-68807342777117414932013-09-08T17:03:09.806-06:002013-09-08T17:03:09.806-06:00Anon^ is right. Ethics is considered a joke class ...Anon^ is right. Ethics is considered a joke class at almost every law school because the MPRE is a joke. All law schools say that they are practice oriented, all law schools have clinics and externships, and all law schools have a large variety of courses. Those are buzzwords used to lure in students. <br /><br />Again, we have someone who knoweth not about what he speak trying to defend an institution that is the fifth law school in an already saturated market, and actually costs MORE than existing, established Indiana schools. BoredJDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-6534613751084730492013-09-08T14:50:03.416-06:002013-09-08T14:50:03.416-06:00Some need only a mirror to know true "adolesc...Some need only a mirror to know true "adolescence." Oh, and to make my comment relevant, law students that don't have jobs post-graduation network poorly, and have little excuse. If I could find a job immediately after school, anyone can.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-42403974406772851882013-09-08T12:48:46.434-06:002013-09-08T12:48:46.434-06:00Krogger:
First, you seem to have a pretty good gr...Krogger:<br /><br />First, you seem to have a pretty good grasp of the ITLS approach, but putting aside my suspicion for a moment, please go ahead and look at the following:<br /><br />http://law.indianatech.edu/academics/curriculum/courses/<br /><br />This looks an awful lot like the curriculum for every other first year schedule at every other law school. This, I suppose, is not a surprise, given that they are trying to get accredited and this is required for the same. But the point is that there will be little if any difference in coursework, just more lawyers in saturated market. <br /><br />And with regards to the rest of how they believe they are different (and of course by different they mean superior):<br /><br />"Our Law School curriculum provides students with not only an opportunity to take traditional courses in innovative ways, but it offers students the opportunity to experience the law in a very real and practical way. Traditional first year legal courses will provide theoretical training infused with experiential exercises and real-life exposure to lawyers, judges and collaborative opportunities."<br /><br />All law schools have externships and internships, many require them, so I am not sure why ITLS is so much "different" (i.e. better). <br /><br />And how this school will better teach them "Ethics" is a fucking mystery to me. If someone can please explain this to me I would appreciate it. Looking at their website and some other promotional materials, I am unable to glean any information about how they actually intend to do this, and why it matters anyway, because ethics have almost nothing to do with practicing law accept for the following: don't lie to the court, don't lie to your clients. I am even more skeptical of their "ethics" now that I know the scumbag subject of this article is a "professor" there. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-37065122757378414892013-09-08T10:34:58.346-06:002013-09-08T10:34:58.346-06:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-68886099305131573922013-09-08T04:51:42.706-06:002013-09-08T04:51:42.706-06:00It was an extremely scammy move to open up a new l...It was an extremely scammy move to open up a new law school in a State where IU Bloomington, the well-regarded flagship school, can barely achieve a 50% bar-required full-time employment rate nine months after graduation. Moreover, the fact that Indiana Tech has no real admissions standards almost guarantees that nobody will seriously consider Tech grads for the few highly competitive entry level law jobs that are still around. <br /><br />I support practical skills training. But there are far greater imperatives right now and for the foreseeable future-- namely reducing the number of law grads and reducing their debt loads. dybbuk123https://www.blogger.com/profile/08142974443119061724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-91018648505220371582013-09-08T04:50:52.131-06:002013-09-08T04:50:52.131-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.dybbuk123https://www.blogger.com/profile/08142974443119061724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-4516158958954302922013-09-07T21:42:56.480-06:002013-09-07T21:42:56.480-06:00I have no affiliation with Indiana Tech, so I'...I have no affiliation with Indiana Tech, so I'm not familiar with "[its] progandistic selling points." I do happen to know a bit about what it is attempting, which is why I can say that I like the school's approach to legal education. There is an increased focus on producing lawyers who can write well, immediately upon graduation. There is also a strong, concerted effort at providing students with real-world experience while they are still law students, overseen by the faculty (who also act as a buffer). I think more law schools should do this, no matter what happens at Indiana Tech. It makes law school a more practical endeavor, from which a greater portion of knowledge can be gleaned and used immediately when the students begin to practice. Also, Indiana Tech has a fast-track on its accreditation with the ABA, meaning that (if things go as planned) it should be fully accredited by the time the first class graduates. I don't really see what the problem is. Kroggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00752560845148333428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-60198032840613546622013-09-07T19:36:47.329-06:002013-09-07T19:36:47.329-06:00From where does this cynicism originate? Read the ...From where does this cynicism originate? Read the blog, but clearly one reason is the proliferation of diploma mills such as this one. And please tell me, by some other means than repeating their progandistic selling points, how this school will better prepare lawyers than any one of the other unaccredited law schools. And please rely on something other than an increased focus on "ethics" or I will puke. And please tell me how this school will help their students when they are excreted with degrees from a 10th tier (made up tier) yet unaccredited law school with no alumni base and in an already terribly oversaturated market. Some support would be nice, be even halfway credible sounding allegations will be considered. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-20373925529582379832013-09-07T15:58:44.318-06:002013-09-07T15:58:44.318-06:00I think it's interesting that you preface this...I think it's interesting that you preface this piece with the following caveat: "I like criticizing arrogant big-shots. I do not like criticizing people who are vulnerable, or who at least perceive themselves that way." I know Mr. Lamparello personally, and this is a hard critique to read. He was my professor at a different law school. I am sorry that you found his memoir so distasteful, but I can tell you that it was very hard for him to write, and it was published for the sole purpose of helping other people who have struggled with eating disorders. He hasn't made any money off of it, but has been able to positively affect the lives of many people through this book. For all of you so eager to point fingers, I wonder whether your own "problems" would withstand the critical eye? <br /><br />As for Indiana Tech, I find refreshing its unique position and approach to legal education. From where does this acrid cynicism originate? I suppose time will tell whether it's successful, but I hope its approach is rewarded.Kroggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00752560845148333428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-458464323008082862013-09-07T12:34:28.652-06:002013-09-07T12:34:28.652-06:00It's very discouraging. It's really easy t...It's very discouraging. It's really easy to take a positive quality and deride it as 'weak.' But, 'weak' is relative term/ judgment. We decide collectively what's rewarded and what's discouraged. We built this culture. Until such time as one can make money AND not act like a sociopath the whole industry will be filled up with sociopaths. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-29277407920056786712013-09-07T04:20:15.268-06:002013-09-07T04:20:15.268-06:00More than $50,000 a year? That's not much mone...More than $50,000 a year? That's not much money for a professor. Maybe inadequate pay is the reason for the sheer weirdness of their teaching staff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-80389132095194713232013-09-07T02:02:17.247-06:002013-09-07T02:02:17.247-06:00Amen, brother!
Well-said. I love that phrase: &q...Amen, brother!<br /><br />Well-said. I love that phrase: "We demand that only shit float." That sums up neatly my brief foray into the legal field, which thankfully, was brief. I will use that phrase when people ask me why I left the legal field. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-71283670500898848212013-09-07T01:23:05.492-06:002013-09-07T01:23:05.492-06:00Well, Mr. Lamparello is right about one thing. To...Well, Mr. Lamparello is right about one thing. To quote him:<br /><br />"To me, the world rewarded shallow, materialistic, selfish, and phony people who didn’t have any sense of morals or values. . ."<br /><br />And thus is the reason why Mr. Lamparello is employed as a professor making more than $50,000 a year while so many hardworking, trustworthy individuals can't get a job in the legal field and never will. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-28304605071636412162013-09-06T19:52:35.898-06:002013-09-06T19:52:35.898-06:00This guy makes Patrick Bateman look like a sane, w...This guy makes Patrick Bateman look like a sane, well-adjusted pillar of the community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-87217657825178699712013-09-06T19:39:45.463-06:002013-09-06T19:39:45.463-06:00Sure, it takes courage to open up about a negative...Sure, it takes courage to open up about a negative experience. Some sneering sadist often shows up to make the standard arguments:<br /><br />You have emotions, which makes you a wimp;<br />You were a sucker, so you don't deserve a good job;<br />Wanting a good job is just so demanding of you;<br />You didn't work hard enough;<br />You didn't network enough...<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-34925183417159190202013-09-06T18:49:50.015-06:002013-09-06T18:49:50.015-06:00I think our present 'system' weeds out any...I think our present 'system' weeds out anyone with those qualities that are considered traditionally virtuous, and that actually are virtuous. We demand that only shit float. <br /><br />Anyone who is attracted to the law for a reason other than money is weeded out by the astronomically high price of law school. You *must* be greedy to survive and thrive in this environment; at minimum, you must actually believe and affirm in yourself that your time is worth $500.00 an hour -despite in no way contributing to a productive industry. <br /><br />Anyone who prefers a cooperative and supportive approach to dealing with/ interacting with others in a work environment is weeded out by the need to compete, to see others primarily as competition, and to 'win.' You must be deeply anti-social to survive and thrive, despite this really not being good for collective thought, or happiness, or really...anything. <br /><br />Anyone who prefers to treat others with respect, honesty, as an equal, is weeded out by the necessity of treating your clients as marks, prey. You must objectify others in the pursuit of money in order to survive and thrive. You must become a liar; at least a mild one. You must over-charge, etc. <br /><br />It goes on and on. Pick a good quality, and ask yourself whether it's a boon or a disqualifying characteristic to be a lawyer at this time in history. <br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-15017508978994993842013-09-06T18:27:21.687-06:002013-09-06T18:27:21.687-06:00Thanks, this is the same young man featured in the...Thanks, this is the same young man featured in the first article in yesterday's news round up. Good for him to be brave enough to tell his story.R A Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11322841515992550220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-45592981276855004812013-09-06T17:35:51.930-06:002013-09-06T17:35:51.930-06:00"This bodes ill for his students."
Of w..."This bodes ill for his students."<br /><br />Of whom he has very, very few. And of whom he will probably soon have none.<br /><br />God works in strange and mysterious ways.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-79074074166599359382013-09-06T17:22:59.748-06:002013-09-06T17:22:59.748-06:00Scott Neal (law graduate, holding down 3 jobs incl...Scott Neal (law graduate, holding down 3 jobs including at YMCA and landscaping, living at home with his parents) on NBC Nightly News:<br /><br />http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly-news/52942307/#52942307<br /><br />http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly-news/52941990/#52941990Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com