tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post7609771522633864001..comments2024-03-28T10:56:31.720-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: Department of Education proposes rule that could help grads escape law school debtUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-87602903229643696432016-07-10T14:20:20.763-06:002016-07-10T14:20:20.763-06:00Link to current ABA dues. It is over $500 a year ...Link to current ABA dues. It is over $500 a year to join the ABA plus a section for a particular type of legal work if you graduated before 2006. Solos pay less, but still too much, since the membership alone gets you very little. This is the link:<br /><br />http://www.americanbar.org/membership/dues_eligibility.html<br /><br />Rates to attend ABA annual meeting of business law section in Boston in September of 2016, are hundreds of dollars, without hotel or travel costs:<br /><br />http://www.americanbar.org/groups/business_law/events_cle/annual_2016/registration.html<br /><br /><br />The ABA Council on Accreditation is almost all old people, heavily in legal education and some judges, with no unemployed recent graduates and no solos - surely not representative of the legal profession today:<br /><br /><br />http://www.americanbar.org/groups/legal_education/about_us/leadership.html<br /><br />The ABA is heavily out of touch. They need to bring the meetings to the lawyers to make this organization cost effective, and not rely on the lawyers having to come to the meetings because most lawyers cannot afford to come. They need to make the Council on Accreditation issues representative of the profession, and may need to split it in two. One portion should set numbers of law students, numbers of law schools, outcome standards and cost guidelines. The other, requiring expertise in legal education, would implement the guidelines set by the representative portion of the councilAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-84460581560849507162016-07-10T04:28:11.156-06:002016-07-10T04:28:11.156-06:00The ABA is run by and for the law schools and the ...The ABA is run by and for the law schools and the largest law firms in America. They do not care about the interests of the masses of lawyers. <br /><br />The ABA's pledge of allegiance to antitrust and flooding the legal profession with more than twice the number of workers than can be absorbed is self interest and not based on any sound application of law. <br /><br />In about the year 2000, large law firms started throwing lawyers out on the street and into a career of in and out joblessness. Entry level lawyer hiring had to also have become the bloodbath it is today. Older lawyers from double Harvards and comparable schools were becoming unemployed and seriously underemployed in large numbers by the year 2000. <br /><br />Until accreditation is taken out of the hands of self interested lawyers and moved to lawyers who are representative of the legal profession, the carnage of lawyers will continue. <br /><br />The ABA actually needs to fund substantial numbers of solos and small firm lawyers for ABA membership and attendance at meetings to get an accrediting body that represents the legal profession. Lawyers who are struggling to earn $40,000 a year cannot afford to be active in the ABA. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-2664433027771902752016-07-09T17:27:04.500-06:002016-07-09T17:27:04.500-06:00The American Dental Association closed down dental...The American Dental Association closed down dental schools during the 90s due to an oversaturated market and ballooning expenses. Loyola dental school closed for instance. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance Kingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-84595949436872354292016-07-09T10:07:59.957-06:002016-07-09T10:07:59.957-06:00Maybe a huge number of applications from law gradu...Maybe a huge number of applications from law graduate under this rule, if it becomes final, would convince the DOE to remove the ABA as the accreditor,<br /><br />The ABA will respond to the DOE's existing one year ban by saying that the ABA cannot do what the DOE is asking on antitrust grounds. The ABA will say that the antitrust laws do not permit the ABA to monitor law schools at all and that the antitrust laws require admission of students regardless of job outcomes. The ABA will also say that the antitrust laws do not permit the ABA to audit law schools' data. The ABA will say that every American has a right to attend law school, regardless of abilities and that the antitrust laws prevent any regulation of law schools by the DOE that will limit or regulate enrollment. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-38029842292909772952016-07-09T09:47:39.723-06:002016-07-09T09:47:39.723-06:00If a single shithole--Santa Clara, Seton Hall, Ohi...If a single shithole--Santa Clara, Seton Hall, Ohio Northern, Valparaiso, Southwestern--were to close down, then other schools in the same markets would find they have to do less lying to attract enough students to pay the bills. The single biggest step to eliminating the hardship and heartbreak of the law school scam would be to close down a major school in a major market.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com