tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post7466403467364050435..comments2024-03-28T10:56:31.720-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: Law Professors' letter to the ABA regarding the proposals limiting tenureUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-79827137172991968932013-10-16T07:24:53.986-06:002013-10-16T07:24:53.986-06:00-The legal institution has to come up with a bette...-The legal institution has to come up with a better argument than "... but what about minorities?"-<br /><br />Reminds me of the Minister's wife from Simpsons intoning out of context "Won't somebody please think of the children?"<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-67280982671679919762013-10-12T11:40:02.598-06:002013-10-12T11:40:02.598-06:00The greatest barrier to the entry of the legal pro...The greatest barrier to the entry of the legal profession for minorities is the cost of tuition and the associated debt. <br /><br />Tenure is the greatest factor in the high and escalating cost of law school tuition.<br /><br />It seems that it would be racist not support a system different from tenure so as to enable students with fewer resources and connections, like many minority students, to enter the legal profession.<br /><br />It's really that simple.<br /> <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-86778477062954169522013-10-12T06:38:34.126-06:002013-10-12T06:38:34.126-06:00It has been argued that tenure in any college or u...It has been argued that tenure in any college or university is usually obtained by those who keep their heads down and their mouths shut, and who do not in any way rock the boat or contradict those in positions of authority. Hardly a recipe for fostering academic freedom or diversity of viewpoints.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-66062561127779258602013-10-12T03:35:30.534-06:002013-10-12T03:35:30.534-06:00Some of you don't want tenure to remain for an...Some of you don't want tenure to remain for anyone, and I'm fine with that. I do think that tenure, if it survives, won't be seen much outside the top 30--or maybe 50--prestige factories.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-55991536362820878402013-10-12T03:11:32.605-06:002013-10-12T03:11:32.605-06:00This "racism" argument may backfire on t...This "racism" argument may backfire on the pampered white professors who invoke it so often without any meaning. Someone may just point out that tenure, with its associated costs, keeps young minority professors from getting hired. It isn't a huge issue for me, but if the white professors drive me and others out of the debate with cries of "racism," there won't be any voices remaining to advocate fair treatment for the few good professors.<br /><br />Most professors are greedy, pretentious, short-sighted idiots who don't deserve their positions, but some professors work hard and deserve tenure. Race-baiting is going to bite them hard if they don't stand up against it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-50690171349781513442013-10-12T02:21:29.563-06:002013-10-12T02:21:29.563-06:00Love this idea - seriously. Since they are always...Love this idea - seriously. Since they are always talking about making different kinds of law schools, why not this? Different kinds of professors for the different kinds of law schools. An added bonus would be that it would blow the roof on their hypocrisy in about 10 seconds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-23701430910579892372013-10-11T22:13:20.014-06:002013-10-11T22:13:20.014-06:00You know you have suggested something that the mod...You know you have suggested something that the modern liberal elite doesn't like when they start calling you a racist. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-41643196054299359612013-10-11T20:21:49.819-06:002013-10-11T20:21:49.819-06:00They should make two professor tracks/options:
1....They should make two professor tracks/options:<br /><br />1. academic tenure - in this scenario, the professor is paid like a PhD student, they're encouraged to do research, and they have the protection of tenure.<br /><br />2. non-tenure - paid comparable salaries to private-sector counterparts, emphasis is on teaching, research is discouraged, and they are required to devote 40 hours a week to teaching activities.<br /><br />How many choose option 1?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-18372488201526250802013-10-11T15:18:38.651-06:002013-10-11T15:18:38.651-06:00No. I write my exams with a fountain pen. Then aga...No. I write my exams with a fountain pen. Then again, I was born before the Battle of Hastings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-4764264650072616372013-10-11T15:13:27.120-06:002013-10-11T15:13:27.120-06:00Law professors almost always hire people of their ...Law professors almost always hire people of their own kind: white people from privileged backgrounds. The rare token Black or other racialized person hired to teach law tends also to come from privilege.<br /><br />Nepotism infests law-school faculties. Frequently the spouse, child, or parent of a professor is a professor in the same law school or at least in the same university. <br /><br />The claim that the faculties of law schools are passionately striving to redress racism through hiring is a whopping lie.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-91761800807619562372013-10-11T13:14:53.356-06:002013-10-11T13:14:53.356-06:00Friend of mine with solo practice that was making ...Friend of mine with solo practice that was making decent money (six figures) is asking me now, "what's up with the economy? My revenues have caved?" I said, "people are going online and getting forms for wills and estates..." Likewise, these professors don't realize the sea-change that is occuring under their feet. In a few years, they're going to be writing petitions such as "Preserve the Blue Book for Exams." (newsflash -- the "write with pen" methodology of exam execution became extinct with the pager.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-83218741067509172172013-10-11T10:45:08.375-06:002013-10-11T10:45:08.375-06:00The legal institution has to come up with a better...The legal institution has to come up with a better argument than "... but what about minorities?" <br /><br />Isn't that also the one they trot out in response to any attempt to reduce the number of students at law school?<br /><br />Exactly how many minorities are currently in legal academia, and how many are expected, given the stringent grade and school requirements (much stricter than Big Law). Law School is basically an exercise in academic hazing that culls out a certain type of student, with a certain type of personality, from a certain back ground. Those criteria result in an overwhelmingly white, male, upper-middle class cohort. So this argument is basically a non-starter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-49430293177897568832013-10-11T10:31:55.139-06:002013-10-11T10:31:55.139-06:00These arguments seem really strange. Even a curso...These arguments seem really strange. Even a cursory review of the so-called literature published by law profs displays a notably uniform world view. It would seem that the protection afforded by tenure is not creating a diversity of opinion and thought. My impression is that tenure (at least in law) is largely a system that allows for predominately left-wing ideologues to occupy tax-payer and/or student-funded positions, while collecting six-figure paychecks, working very limited hours, and producing a moderate volume of zero- or negative-value publications that few people will read, let alone act upon.<br /><br />The argument about minority representation seems particularly cruel, as I would expect that minority students are more likely to take on debt and less likely to secure remunerative (or any) legal employment. Essentially, minorities are actively harmed by tenure (since it's acknowledged that tenure causes legal education costs to be higher than they would be without tenure).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-58480311481661224682013-10-11T10:05:34.800-06:002013-10-11T10:05:34.800-06:00Oh, yes, Prof. Dipshit's article "Miscell...Oh, yes, Prof. Dipshit's article "Miscellaneous Preliminary Speculations on the Desirability of a Critical Neo-Rawlsian Theory of Law and Soap Operas" so bristles with controversy and dissent that Prof. Dipshit's pampered ass absolutely must receive a guarantee of lifelong employment that is practically unknown outside the sable-carpeted halls of hackademia. All of three people have read that vitally important article—and one of them was the harried editor stuck with the task of turning Prof. Dipshit's illiterate ramblings into an approximation of legible prose.<br /><br />And of course tenure for Prof. Dipshit, the tag-along spouse of another tenured professor in the same institution, does ever so much to promote racial equality. After all, the same inbred white asses that occupy those posts will keep racialized people out of them for decades to come.<br /><br />Shit, I can't go on writing in this vein. It makes me want to puke.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-58674549882481996762013-10-11T09:42:42.274-06:002013-10-11T09:42:42.274-06:00ABA: The current tenure system for law schools is...ABA: The current tenure system for law schools is increasingly dubious, philosophically, and economically unsound for current and future law students, as those students bear the burden for said system. Reasonable revisions should be considered immediately.<br /><br />LawProfs: Waaaaah! Waaa Waaa Waaaahhhhh!dupednontraditionalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170022654810216357noreply@blogger.com