tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post6128357379048062818..comments2024-03-28T10:56:31.720-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: The Life of An Attorney: Myth vs. RealityUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-82194064648730677572016-10-20T09:47:48.901-06:002016-10-20T09:47:48.901-06:00I would live to hear your thoughts on the professi...I would live to hear your thoughts on the profession nite that you have been practicing.Christinanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-20327207627596967582015-08-21T07:22:29.940-06:002015-08-21T07:22:29.940-06:00I'm a certified paralegal who works for a corp...I'm a certified paralegal who works for a corporation and I report to a corporate attorney. I've been, shall we say, strongly encouraged by my supervisor to attend law school and have successfully declined for years. I'd like to offer my perspective to anyone who thinks this is crazy. I've personally seen a lot of this to be absolutely true, and I'm so glad that I had the opportunity to be awakened early in my career. One of the outside attorneys we use, recently opened up his own practice but was part of a big firm. He is a close personal friend of mine and I know for a fact, attorneys struggle and deal with pressure of getting business more than anything in real life. If you can get a job as a GC for a corporation, THAT is the way to go as an attorney. But as we all know, such positions come very few and far between. However, if you have a love and respect for the law, be a paralegal. I LOVE being a paralegal. It's the best of both worlds. I get to quasi-practice law AND make a decent, respectable wage; and don't have to be a baiter to do so. If you are not an attention-monger, or status-whore, a paralegal is a wonderful alternative to being a lawyer. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-317773325414939622014-05-23T02:08:12.288-06:002014-05-23T02:08:12.288-06:00We all have a few 'strings' of narcissism ...We all have a few 'strings' of narcissism in us. I have noticed that all schools have the narcissistic teacher who wants to validate themselves. It is not just a Law School. I have attended 4 college level schools and have seen the narcissistic types in all. The politics and various psych dispositions alone, are enough to discredit the validity and accuracy of any grade point average from a college institution. <br /><br />Sociopaths are also 1/25 according to Martha Stout's stats in her book about Sociopaths. Sociopaths will be just about anywhere. Competition to a Sociopath is like adding turbo boost to a standard sedan. The effects of Sociopaths would likely increase in condensed environments where winning in competition, is perceived as vital to one's ability to dominate. <br /><br />I have been grateful to have had case myself. I got to do the fact gathering, law interpreting, court appearances, evidence gathering and the like. The client often knows the case the best and knows where information and or evidence may be. The client still needs an objective advocate who knows how to appropriate one's legal situation to the legal process. The client can benefit by having an attorney who can litigate the legal matters in court and through relevant documents such as; memorandums and motions. <br /><br />I do not think it is necessary to go to law school and to have to have a 4-5 year degree prior to attending Law School. Anyone can apply common sense, logic and reasoning to interpret laws. Police Officers do it every day and they have allot of accountability. <br /><br />2 years customer service, 2 year training program, SERIOUS BACKGROUND CHECK and State Exam and Certification, should be all that is required. <br /><br />I think the massive amount of moot education required to be an attorney is increasing motives for deception, fraud and corruption. I have no doubts that the massive time taken and money exhausted to get a Law degree, influences the general population of attorneys and their level of honesty, integrity and ethics.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03985037269314647829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-49768667706707622492014-03-19T10:54:41.907-06:002014-03-19T10:54:41.907-06:00How many young associates are divorced? How many young associates are divorced? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-89245329534767910792014-01-14T13:27:39.732-07:002014-01-14T13:27:39.732-07:00JB,
Currently I am researching law schools in Te...JB, <br /><br />Currently I am researching law schools in Tennessee; may I ask which one you attend? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-1917693446942553582014-01-14T07:52:45.797-07:002014-01-14T07:52:45.797-07:00What a complete load of crap. This looks like some...What a complete load of crap. This looks like something a writer made up just to stir up the pot. I am in my last year of law school, am a member of both my state and county bar associations, and can tell you from experience that none of what the writer says is true in my community. My instructors are ALL PRACTICING ATTORNEYS AND JUDGES. One is currently sitting on the Tennessee State Supreme Court. And they all refer to their practices in our classes and what we can expect once we are out in the legal world. The experiences described in law firms may be true in areas like New York and Detroit but the lawyers I know are decent men and women who make a good living and foster a professional relationship with each other in and out of the courtroom.JB in TNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07730852727337635584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-715503155740492332014-01-02T23:36:34.879-07:002014-01-02T23:36:34.879-07:00It's called selection bias. You only notice th...It's called selection bias. You only notice the successful attorneys, and only the successful attorneys stay in the profession. And since we're talking about financial success here, there are lots of scumbags who know how to milk the legal system, and lots of good, smart, hardworking people who refuse to do it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-44714958252297810462014-01-02T23:30:43.392-07:002014-01-02T23:30:43.392-07:00A very good comment there.A very good comment there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-15761437644943915662014-01-02T22:56:55.535-07:002014-01-02T22:56:55.535-07:00I wouldn't be surprised if some of the attorne...I wouldn't be surprised if some of the attorneys you know are making a very good living. However some may be attempting to conceal their financial problems and put up a brave front. Attorneys equal cash flow problems with weakness, so there is a strong incentive to exaggerate the positive. You would only know for sure if you could see their tax returns and credit scores.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-54929137659852039022014-01-02T22:05:47.347-07:002014-01-02T22:05:47.347-07:00Hear the news about the newly licensed illegal imm...Hear the news about the newly licensed illegal immigrant lawyer in california? Their Supreme Court unanimously welcomed him to the elite, high-class profession.<br /><br />Soon lawyers will gather like day laborers outside Home Depot, ready to hop into your pickup truck if you need some doc review or hedge trimming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-19354817452492407012014-01-02T20:49:23.740-07:002014-01-02T20:49:23.740-07:00You mean "appear" to knock it out of the...You mean "appear" to knock it out of the ball park. In actuality, it's an illusion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-51505484993894059602014-01-02T18:43:50.468-07:002014-01-02T18:43:50.468-07:00How nice of Brian Tannenbaum to rejoin the proceed...How nice of Brian Tannenbaum to rejoin the proceedings.MAhttp://www.thelawschoolscam.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-22904786503748362662014-01-02T17:53:04.606-07:002014-01-02T17:53:04.606-07:00Get to know some real lawyers. They're out the...Get to know some real lawyers. They're out there. <br /><br />I'd love to met the ones you know. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-45103019435269985692014-01-02T17:44:41.806-07:002014-01-02T17:44:41.806-07:00Outsiders are particularly susceptible to the law ...Outsiders are particularly susceptible to the law school mystique. Family can be the worst of enablers. <br /><br />Today we're in a similar situation to the Vietnam war with respect to the oldsters' perception of the legal profession. The WW2 vets viewed war throught the prism of WW2--a just and very necessary war against evil. Protesting against American involvement in WW2 was unthinkable --it was tantamount to saying hooray for the Axis. <br /><br />Vietnam was far less clear. <br /><br />Times had changed. Not everyone got it at the time. Families were torn apart. <br /><br />Law school and the promise of being a lawyer is similar. <br /><br />It's a different time and far different circumstance. Thank God they're not drafting you into law school. Just say Hell No; I won't go!!<br /><br />And let's have peace with honor by Christmas 2014; law school closures well underway. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-76121193537767451452014-01-02T16:57:46.551-07:002014-01-02T16:57:46.551-07:00How come virtually every lawyer I know appears to ...How come virtually every lawyer I know appears to be making at the least a decent living? I also know many who are self employed and year after year knock it out of the ball park.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-58853737211909684822014-01-02T13:34:29.420-07:002014-01-02T13:34:29.420-07:00The myth dies hard. Sadly it's killing a lot o...The myth dies hard. Sadly it's killing a lot of innocent young people in the process. <br /><br />Honest reporting of all outcomes and incomes would tell people a lot. And 5 and 10-year snapshots would be most revealing, too. Finally, a showing of the steady downward trajectory of the profession over the past 20 years would be the capper. <br /><br />Students must learn that this ain't their grandpappys profession. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-5771928370437104752014-01-02T12:51:50.115-07:002014-01-02T12:51:50.115-07:00The difference between the public's perception...The difference between the public's perception of what lawyers do and the reality of what lawyers do (and earn) has to be one if the biggest disconnects ever, but it is a myth promoted by law schools because if Average Joe really knew what it was like, law schools would be empty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-26854858553060111402014-01-02T08:22:07.158-07:002014-01-02T08:22:07.158-07:00Family can be the worst enemy when dealing with la...Family can be the worst enemy when dealing with law school. They encourage you to go, then encourage you to stay in a depressing profession losing money when you graduate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-46503288589881147322014-01-02T07:48:32.329-07:002014-01-02T07:48:32.329-07:00I think that either word is appropiate.I think that either word is appropiate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-54325251313751100782014-01-02T07:31:07.320-07:002014-01-02T07:31:07.320-07:00Thank you, MA, for giving us the lowdown on the lo...Thank you, MA, for giving us the lowdown on the low life of an attorney. Some of the professors will try to trash you for telling the truth. They've never had to deal with all that, and they find it disgusting. So they will call you a loser, a whiner, not smart or tough enough to be an attorney.<br /><br />None of their childish insults are true. You're a very brave person, and plenty tough and smart when it comes to exposing the greed and hypocrisy of the scamprofs. (I think all deans are profs, by the way.) Keep up the good work. You're fighting the good fight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-77678504992164249692014-01-02T06:13:51.816-07:002014-01-02T06:13:51.816-07:00You're bringing back nightmare memories of my ...You're bringing back nightmare memories of my few years in private practice. Insufferable greedy clients and coworkers. Non stop aggression and tricks and delays and running up bills and putting up roadblocks. An entire system set up to make the law as complicated and lucrative as possible.<br /><br />Thank god I no longer desk with that shit every day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com