tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post6007051151515623288..comments2024-03-28T07:16:35.912-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: Über-toileteers continue to perform terribly on bar exams; ABA issues four notices of non-complianceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-16002164854484806092023-01-30T12:15:47.879-07:002023-01-30T12:15:47.879-07:00There are several things driving the scam. The US...There are several things driving the scam. The US, unlike other nations 1) encourages just about everyone to go to college. This leads to unintelligent, unmotivated people getting worthless college degrees in majors like "Philosophy" and "Sociology". They usually come out deeply in debt, move back in with their parents, and end up working very low wage jobs. 2) We, culturally, portray college as a four year long party, with emphasis on alcohol, sex, college football, basketball etc. Finally, 3) We portray just about all lawyers as being beautiful, wealthy successful people with amazing careers, driving luxury cars and living like kings and 4) We tell college and law school students you don't have to pay for any of this, just sign some loan documents and have a blast. All of these factors have led to a grossly over-saturated job market for lawyers, a steadily declining Bar Pass rate, and a host of other problems that keep growing and getting worse.dilbert113https://www.blogger.com/profile/03900301992653409150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-58915810574475798902023-01-29T23:04:07.844-07:002023-01-29T23:04:07.844-07:00That's one reason for which those that you dai...That's one reason for which those that you daintily call "the lower ones" (whom I would probably call "the dolts") should be kept twenty leagues from any law school.<br /><br />It wasn't so very long ago that people were routinely discouraged from hopeless pursuits. To this very day Old Guy would be drawn aside and told a few home truths if he proposed to become a quarterback or a concertmeister, at least after everyone stopped laughing. Not so with law: everyone is encouraged to go into it, regardless of deficiencies in such areas as literacy and intelligence. And Uncle $cam will underwrite the whole ill-fated venture.<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-13425825394427456582023-01-29T22:05:22.912-07:002023-01-29T22:05:22.912-07:00Dishonesty seems to be what the US is all about. Dishonesty seems to be what the US is all about. Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-28732722901966173462023-01-28T19:02:53.508-07:002023-01-28T19:02:53.508-07:00A really important issue is how the law school sca...A really important issue is how the law school scam keeps going. At first, I blamed the schools, the scamdeans and the scamprofs (and I still then they are culpable). Then I blamed the idiotic loan schemes. But really finally after many years, after more accurate stats were shown, you have to blame the lemmings. They really are deluded. One thing I've always noticed when I gatecrash a law school chatboard, is how the smarter students are prepared to listen about the scam, but the lower ones really block it all out, and think they are special.<br />The loans system is simply a dangerous feeding of an irrational cognitive bias built into many people, who are too thick for maths/science/tech and too dumb to work with their hands: the law lemmings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-62130190020617041312023-01-28T09:46:33.209-07:002023-01-28T09:46:33.209-07:00Borrowing money you do not intend to pay back is i...Borrowing money you do not intend to pay back is inherently dishonest. If one of the first major decisions you make in your adult life, from 18-24 years old, is to steal a few hundred thousand dollars, you are setting yourself up for a lifetime of dishonesty. I would never retain a lawyer who was so profoundly dishonest that he stole a few hundred thousand dollars to relax in school while everyone else was working for a living. If you default on your student loans, you will default on other loans and obligations in life, be more inclined to cheat on your spouse, buy cars that end up being repossessed, homes that are eventually foreclosed on, and so forth. The person I know who spent 7 years living on student loans has since bounced from job to job to unemployment, and is now a compulsive liar with a very tenuous grip on reality. Nothing makes you grow up more than working hard to pay off your own debts, and eventually succeeding and being free of them. dilbert113https://www.blogger.com/profile/03900301992653409150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-25167964323408074422023-01-20T12:16:09.124-07:002023-01-20T12:16:09.124-07:00I don't blame the students necessarily. If you...I don't blame the students necessarily. If you tell someone that you'll give them a loan that is limitless (thanks to gradPLUS) and tell them that (thanks to IBR) they don't have to pay it back except in the (unlikely) event that they can afford to do so, can you really blame them for taking advantage of that? A business certainly would take advantage of huge forgivable loans, as they did with PPP and such. <br /><br />So why should an individual care about the morality of it? Economics 101: People respond to incentives, and if what you incentivize them to do is to take a 3 year vacation from the real world, then you can't really blame them for taking the government up on its offer. Heck, the government even benefits in one sense: They're not in the labor force when they're in school full-time so they cannot be counted as "unemployed," which enables politicians to paint a rosier economic picture. Social security disability often serves the same purpose for former factory workers who have been made obsolete. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-64940136046931931652023-01-14T19:35:11.012-07:002023-01-14T19:35:11.012-07:00Make sure you elect Crackpot Politician A, with pr...Make sure you elect Crackpot Politician A, with promises of blanket student loan forgiveness but no plan to require lending standards for student loans...... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-50276676306707050932023-01-13T23:20:26.021-07:002023-01-13T23:20:26.021-07:00We have never maintained that toileteers are innoc...We have never maintained that toileteers are innocent victims. Indeed, there are plenty of moochers among them who just go for the borrowed money that they'll never repay. The law-school scamsters aren't the only ones who are in on the scam.Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-33514182069764944092023-01-13T08:10:18.114-07:002023-01-13T08:10:18.114-07:00Remember, not all law students are sincere and gen...Remember, not all law students are sincere and genuine people. I personally know a guy who coasted through 4Y of college, all funded by student loans. He then moved back in with his parents and worked various low paid jobs for a year, and decided that he didn't like "work". . .so he took a 3Y all-expenses paid vacation in sunny Florida! He called it "law school" but freely admitted he chose Florida because he likes warm sunny beaches and girls in bikinis. He didn't even sit for the Bar the summer after he graduated. . .why bother! He's now unemployed, and will never repay his student loans, but for 7Y--4Y college, 3Y law school--he had a Great Time, and didn't have to pay for any of it! Lots of students working at the local Wal Mart with their Bachelor's in "Philosophy" or "Film" get tired of living at home with Mom and Dad, and worrying about their student loans from college, so they head off to law school, where they not only won't be required to repay their loans while attending, but will in fact take out lots of new loans while living large for 3Y. Some even go for an MBA after that for more years of living large without having to work for a livng. . .dilbert113https://www.blogger.com/profile/03900301992653409150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-56713873739585170202023-01-12T11:49:50.969-07:002023-01-12T11:49:50.969-07:00Just to add to what 8:23 said, for readers who are...Just to add to what 8:23 said, for readers who are contemplating law school vs med school, the commenter is exactly right. I had a classmate in his early 40s. There were multiple people who took a non-traditional route and were older. I was in my 30s at the time. When I applied for medical school, I got interviews at some of the top schools despite my age. When I was in residency, I met a medical student in his mid to late 40s. Keep in mind, this was a student at a very elite college and med school. This person later went into ortho which is one of the most competitive specialties. I was able to go into a competitive specialty despite applying in my late 30s. Med schools and residencies do not discriminate based on age. <br /><br />And 8:23 is also correct about the job market. Every one of my classmates matched into residency. Well over 90% of U.S. medical school graduates match into residency. The reason U.S. medical students usually don’t match into residency is they apply for a competitive specialty like neuro surgery, derm, or ortho, or they apply to too few residencies. Multiple classmates took a gap year to get involved in research in competitive specialties like ortho or neuro surgery. They graduated the year after me and all matched into those competitive specialties. Now that law schools are required to publish real job statistics, we see that law schools come nowhere close to putting over 90% of grads into legal jobs. In fact, I have mentioned this before, there are Caribbean med schools that put a higher percentage of grads into residency than low tier law schools are capable of placing into legal jobs. <br /><br />Everything about law school is a scam. When I applied to law school in the early 2000s, law school’s published and touted at applicant events that 99% of grads had jobs with average salaries of 100k. The debt load was bad back then, nowhere like now. At one event, after the career services dean bragged about their fictitious stats, a student asked how they could pay back $150k in student loans when they were interested in public service law. The dean actually said, “just take a private practice job first. Graduates are averaging $100k in private practice. Then when you pay off your loans pursue a public interest law job.” Of course that was a total lie. My best friend from high school, a graduate of a non-elite law school like me who has been a career solo crim law attorney summed up the true stats best - “It was more like 50 and 50. 50% of grads obtained legal jobs making $50k.” Let me tell how how that person is doing after years of solo crim law for those who think you just got to “hustle.” They are miserable. And they wish they could find a way out. When I was applying to med schools, there was no salary job placement sales pitch. They entire interview day was about the educational benefits of the school and associated teaching hospital, such as, look at our fancy multi million dollar sim center, etc. <br /><br />When I graduated a second tier law school unemployed in the mid 2000s with good grades and law review after getting rejected by Big Law, Big Fed, local prosecutors, s—- law, local government, and the public defender, my law school still published the same garbage stats. The school bragged 90%+ of the class had jobs with an average salary of $100k. Looking back it is hilarious. I once went to a legal job fair. I approached a big law firm. Given that I was from a second tier toilet, they flat out refused to even accept my resume. They wouldn’t even give me the courtesy of taking my resume and throwing it in the trash. Now I get emails all the time for physician openings. You might be thinking, what is a physician doing commenting in the middle of the day and not working. I worked Christmas and New Years. Now I finally have some time off. I comment here when I have some free time so others won’t make the same mistake. When you put yourself deep in debt for a worthless degree with limited opportunities, it is really hard to overcome a life mistake like that. anon JD, MDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07775915615578290692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-36573757521034203552023-01-12T01:14:22.719-07:002023-01-12T01:14:22.719-07:00Look at what I found on Reddit that was posted 10 ...Look at what I found on Reddit that was posted 10 years ago. Quite telling:<br /><br /> " I'm a 2012 graduate from a strong regional school (strong in the region, top 50 overall). I graduated in the top 5% of my class, was on law review, externed for a federal district court judge, worked as a law clerk throughout law school, and participated in clinic.<br /><br />It's every bit as much of a scam as you have heard. I have no job and no prospects. The last job I interviewed for would have consisted of nothing but running the tires off my car handling court calls for residential foreclosures. That job went to an attorney with 22 years of experience.<br /><br />I've been killing myself doing the networking thing. I go to every bar association event I can, I've gone to observe trials and motion practice, and I'll be done with my CLE for this year and next in early January. The people in the alumni network don't respond to emails, and most practitioners I've encountered have given up talking to new graduates. None of it is doing any good. I've sent out hundreds of resumes, each one carefully tailored and researched. There just aren't any jobs out there. "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-74884459019505704652023-01-08T08:58:56.552-07:002023-01-08T08:58:56.552-07:00January 6 5:24pm here
I work in real estate in an...January 6 5:24pm here<br /><br />I work in real estate in an acquisitions capacity, specifically to obtain existing rental apartment complexes to rehab into mixed-use retail/luxury condos in gentrifying neighborhoods. Much of what we do is in Brooklyn, DC, and increasingly Atlanta and Los Angeles. I use Excel and Argus extensively, I occasionally serve as owner-rep on construction projects. About 75% of my comp is in equity and carried interest. Let me tell you my company, alma mater, graduation year, and social security number while I’m at it, to establish credibility. <br /><br />I did not go to law school too long ago, at least way more recently than “Old Guy” did. 0Ls, by definition, never had a law job. It does not require a savant empath to figure out what they want (prestige, money, maybe some hedonistic activity in their off time, law schools claim to provide all three). Thank you for telling me I don’t know anyone in law school at this moment in time, whether family or friends. It is also amusing to think their goals in going to law school are much different than someone in the 70s or 80s. It is all the same. <br /><br />I did not call Old Guy a “loser”, I simply stated how 0Ls will likely perceive him. He went to Harvard and couldn’t get a big law job. We can attribute that to age discrimination, luck of the draw etc but it doesn’t matter to a 22-year old with an admissions letter in front of him. He’ll Google harvards big law placement rate and draw his own conclusions. <br /><br />There is no reason for me to start my own blog when this one is adequate and improvable. I am providing constructive criticism. <br /><br />With this five minute detour, let me go back to eviction notices our outside counsel prepared for a new acquisition. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-14578358614678062023-01-07T08:51:25.998-07:002023-01-07T08:51:25.998-07:00Paranoid, indeed; you lengthy and fully uniformed ...Paranoid, indeed; you lengthy and fully uniformed post is risible. How would you, who has never had a law job, know what 0Ls find credible? Quick answer: you don't. Simply put, you have no idea, as it's been since your law school days that you've had contact with anyone in law school. There's nothing inaccurate about the post you attack(yes, attacking an "internet stranger"); it simply reflects the temerity of-egads!-disagreeing with you.<br />By your own admission, you've never worked a law job, used the JD for "padding", judge others mightily("loser")...and all these opinions because you "work in the front office" of an unnamed company in an unnamed line of business. <br />Clearly, this background gives you sparkling insight into the mindset of prospective law students. So start your own blog, as you definitely think you can do a better job than just about everybody else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-31876870700471551672023-01-07T01:19:54.548-07:002023-01-07T01:19:54.548-07:00Let me put it like this: I'd rather commit har...Let me put it like this: I'd rather commit harakiri than hire an über-toileteer as counsel.Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-40092543328130572242023-01-06T17:24:07.222-07:002023-01-06T17:24:07.222-07:00January 3 3:26 here
@ January 5 8:15AM
Unlike de...January 3 3:26 here<br /><br />@ January 5 8:15AM<br /><br />Unlike desirable roles in the legal profession (e.g. big law), front office roles in the business sector tend to require fewer hours as you go up the totem pole. And almost none outside of management consulting and IB have hours comparable to V50 law firms. It takes about five minutes to catch up on this blog and respond. I don't even need a secretary to block that time out. <br /><br />Never said I was hugely successful, I am lucky to have gotten past my resume's Mark of Cain (a JD).<br /><br />Outside the Law School Scam is the only active scam blog left. It has an increased responsibility to be 100% accurate, on-point, and relentless against the scam in all the forms it takes. It is the only resource left outside of cached archives of defunct websites.<br /><br />You are case in point as to what I am referring to by being inaccurate and then ignored by 0Ls. Here you are, attacking an internet stranger, saying he has no idea what 0Ls think, "none." You accuse an internet stranger of being a law school placement office employee like a paranoid person. 0Ls will tune that out and think you are a loser who could not hack it in the profession and in the game of life, whether that is fair or not. They will read stories of Harvard alums who cannot get a big law job and (rightfully) perceive that poster to be an outlier. They will read remarks about how bikini-clad advertising at a San Diego school may be assuming the wrong sexual orientation and roll their eyes, people do not come here to read about trans debates and social justice issues or Republican tax cut proposals. <br /><br />This blog should be focused on two situations:<br /><br />1. The 0L with a good undergraduate credential and work experience for whom big law is a professional step down (because it is for anyone who has been in finance or consulting or FAANG level tech), and<br /><br />2. The 0L with a bad LSAT (under 174) who has no business in law, who is looking at predatory institutions (everything outside the T13, and the T13 without a full-ride).<br /><br />Both groups are entering a profession with crummy responsibilities and high debt loads. 99/100 entering law students should avoid it.<br /><br />@January 5 11:43AM<br /><br />I am slightly exaggerating when I say the entire second, third, and fourth tiers are useless. Anybody who comes out of them with a respectable legal career trajectory was qualified for a first tier school and recklessly rolled the dice.<br /><br />Whether my undergraduate credentials were "impressive" is an interesting question. I have a humanities 3.5 from a non-flagship state school. Law school admissions standards have declined precipitously the last 30 years as any older professor will state in private. Due to the rankings game, law schools just want the highest GPA and LSATs they can find, whether that is from Podunk U or Dartmouth does not matter.<br /><br />A front office position in a business generates revenue. It can be management, sales, investment advisory etc. Back office (and middle office) are support functions such as in-house counsel, HR, tech support, risk management, accounting. <br /><br />The JD was largely resume padding, but it tangentially is related to my current role (I am in an investment role at a fund that focuses on public equities and distressed assets). An MBA would be an easier path here, a masters in finance too, a candidate with a few financial modeling courses who can network has a better shot than most T13 JD holders with 2-4 years at a big law firm. Law does not open doors outside of the legal profession.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-19178074648219787892023-01-06T09:50:08.315-07:002023-01-06T09:50:08.315-07:00Robot lawyer to defend client in court
https://ny...Robot lawyer to defend client in court<br /><br />https://nypost.com/2023/01/05/robot-lawyer-powered-by-ai-will-help-fight-speeding-ticket-as-it-takes-first-case-in-court/<br /><br />Old guy, would you rather be represented by a robot lawyer, or a Cooley/other 4th tier graduate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-20699449565940537272023-01-06T08:23:09.827-07:002023-01-06T08:23:09.827-07:00No, he wasn't. Two siblings went to med school...No, he wasn't. Two siblings went to med school with classmates in their 40s. And while it's a massive expense, after residency primary care docs are earning 200K/yr upon completion of residency. A lot of work to get there? Yes; but unlike law, there's a guaranteed job waiting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-27124230313439513132023-01-05T11:43:06.664-07:002023-01-05T11:43:06.664-07:00I am sure that old guy's response will be more...I am sure that old guy's response will be more on point, but it is not just Cooley that does not lead to 'big law' but the entire 4th tier. And not just big law but any law. According to old guy the 2nd and 3rd tiers are equally as useless. That seems that it might be a bit of an exaggeration, but the 4th tier alone comprises about 50 schools that are not delivering a useful product. <br /><br />As for your experiences, in order to have been admitted to a 1st tier school, your undergraduate credentials must have been impressive. You said yourself that you might have achieved the same success by pursuing an easier path than law school. I would say that that is correct and perhaps your Bachelor's alone would have been sufficient to achieve at least some degree of success. You do not explain beyond resume padding, how your JD was so essential to getting and succeeding in this 'front office' position that you have. I am not sure exactly what a front office position is, but I assume it is superior to a back or rear office position.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-28022954715311626552023-01-05T08:15:27.432-07:002023-01-05T08:15:27.432-07:00It's always puzzling when a hugely successful ...It's always puzzling when a hugely successful person like you, with the archetypal "JD Advantage" job so treasured by law school placement officers everywhere, can take time from their "front-office role" and stop by to lecture everyone. And it's clear you're a devoted fan, what with your "P.S." and all. Thanks so much for your success, insight, and just all around wisdom. I know that I for one look forward to law school placement office employees posting here.<br />But let's keep it simple: you have no idea-none-what "0Ls" think-or don't think, for that matter. And you clearly miss the entire point of this blog, which is to lay out, in stark terms, what the market for attorneys is really like, how crushing the debt can be, and what life is like after three years wasted. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-10008467973967598392023-01-03T15:26:06.244-07:002023-01-03T15:26:06.244-07:00Even though nearly everything posted here is true,...Even though nearly everything posted here is true, it reads as sour grapes to an aspiring 1L who can be talked out of law school. You entered law school in your 40s, of course you were never going to be hired. You could have googled this or looked at firm bios of associates and drawn your own conclusions. Ditto for going to Cooley, which has always been viewed as a dumpster fire. Over 80% of your message to 0Ls is "Old people and Cooley alums do not get big law." All of you could have gotten into sales or marketing or entry-level management or the majority of jobs normal, non-JD holders get. And before you say you would be viewed as overqualified, McDonalds U. would have given you a better career than you have had and they would have taken you in.<br /><br />Me? I got a front-office role in the private sector that I could not have gotten without going to law school to develop my resume. Maybe a masters or MBA would have been easier, either way I have no debt and make six figures with responsibilities I like and upward mobility. I went to a non-T13, First Tier school. Saying these outcomes never happen or are so rare as to be negligible is simply wrong, and 0Ls will know you are wrong. For all of your time and effort here, you could be much more effective.<br /><br />P.S. Getting political/bringing in social issues that do not matter only turns off 0Ls from your advice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-48944404725614585942023-01-03T11:54:57.639-07:002023-01-03T11:54:57.639-07:00You were definitely too old for medicine then, tho...You were definitely too old for medicine then, though many bottom tier DO schools have opened, which would have been doable. The time and pain involved, for only a 1.5 decades of work max, not to mention the higher tutition feeds, would not be worth it. I am not much younger than you when you went to school, and there's no way I could do it now--more tired, more wise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-86681188168112879862023-01-03T09:33:50.864-07:002023-01-03T09:33:50.864-07:009:04 back, one last time. Regarding the '80s-...9:04 back, one last time. Regarding the '80s-I too went to a law school in a state with two law schools, and attended the "better"-a truly relative term-school. I can't give any good excuses for my goofing off or my naivete regarding what lawyers did, what they got paid, etc etc<br />That said, fully one-third of my graduating class back in the mid-80s did not have jobs at graduation. Again, it was cheap-really cheap-to attend, but for many of us it was three years wasted. And this was back in the day when the top students at my school were able to get jobs in BigLaw.<br />And even back then, society at large recognized what was going on, even if I and so many others didn't pay attention. On the popular sitcom "Cheers" one of the bar regulars was the owner's attorney-and his gardener- one episode ended in court, with Sam-the owner-telling Tim-the attorney/gardener-the the hedges needed trimming.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-17855772461878431222023-01-03T00:24:24.786-07:002023-01-03T00:24:24.786-07:00A golden age for lawyers the 1980s were not, but i...A golden age for lawyers the 1980s were not, but indeed they were much better than today—and, as you said, they were far from glorious.Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-37873657917722322732023-01-02T22:18:57.497-07:002023-01-02T22:18:57.497-07:00I attended a 2nd tier(trap) NYC Law School in the ...I attended a 2nd tier(trap) NYC Law School in the late 80's but dropped out after 1L. Things were different (sort of) in that most people(but not all) who graduated got jobs. A few top students got biglaw; a lot became ADA's; and the rest went to small firms. I realized the bi-modal salary structure and with my grades I missed biglaw by a lot. The starting salaries for ADA's and small firms were less than I was making as a waiter. A sharp-minded friend I respected told me he wasn't worried about getting a job at graduation; he was worried about 7 years down the road and told me about a friend whose firm didn't have room for him and the guy couldn't find any legal job. Another friend in college tried to warn me against LS as his brother was a lawyer and was bombarded with resumes daily. I also had run out of money and would have to borrow for tuition and living expenses for the next 2 years. I could see my future: working really hard for little money; job insecurity; and debt- so I bailed. People talk about the 80's and 90's as some kind of golden age for attorneys- but even then it wasn't great. <br />I wound up as a public school teacher a few years later and saw a former LS classmate dropping off his resume to the English Dept. chair looking for a job. I also looked up two good friends I had from LS but had lost contact with over the years. They were both bright, hardworking liberal-arts majors from good colleges. One practiced briefly in NJ before going into fundraising for nonprofits. The other went from the DA's office to small law firm then solo doing DUI's and Legal Aid. I found out I made more money than each of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-87647649381130232122023-01-02T10:10:47.059-07:002023-01-02T10:10:47.059-07:00I was well into my forties when I graduated from l...I was well into my forties when I graduated from law school.<br /><br />Age-based discrimination in the legal profession is an open secret; it just wasn't open to Old Guy, who wouldn't have gone into law if he had known about it. To people who encouraged me to take up medicine instead, I said that I was too old. It turns out that I got that wrong…Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.com