tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post4950342038333185422..comments2024-03-28T10:56:31.720-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: The Association of American Law Schools hosts a gathering of 3,000 innovation-loving law professorsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-54939525439652545702016-01-14T21:17:55.965-07:002016-01-14T21:17:55.965-07:00"How did you get the squiggly stuff on the wo..."How did you get the squiggly stuff on the word "elite?" [élite] "<br /><br />Copy and paste helps. Also for stuff like the registered trademark symbol (®) or the always fun backwards R trope, as-in "Patents_Я_Us".Imagining the élite toadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-11768037827741673462016-01-13T14:29:16.989-07:002016-01-13T14:29:16.989-07:00Old Guy
How did you get the squiggly stuff on the...Old Guy<br /><br />How did you get the squiggly stuff on the word "elite?" We are all preaching to the choir here. We need to go to the Faculty Lounge Blog. If they threaten to remove my posts, I just remind them that U of I got nicked for $600,000 for "un-hiring" that Prawf for his Tweets. <br /><br />I figured out a good way to simply illustrate the problem. Uber Walmart world. The pie is only so big...Captain Hurska Carswell, Continuance Kingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-55560145816036732592016-01-13T13:26:10.262-07:002016-01-13T13:26:10.262-07:002016 AALS Agenda
1. Welcome
2. Keynote speech: “...2016 AALS Agenda<br /><br />1. Welcome<br /><br />2. Keynote speech: “I don’t see legal education as being in crisis at all.”<br /><br />3. Snack: “Let Them Eat Cake.”<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-45763774702547186252016-01-13T13:13:38.789-07:002016-01-13T13:13:38.789-07:00That immigrant is not mandated to pay income tax, ...That immigrant is not mandated to pay income tax, he under reports revenue, employs clan-folk under the table and breaks environmental laws. he also benefited from a turn-key business plan and loans from his kin...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-46376838368542966782016-01-13T09:48:22.550-07:002016-01-13T09:48:22.550-07:00But George W. Bush (who incidentally looked devast...But George W. Bush (who incidentally looked devastated in the last picture I saw) wasn't a faculty member, was he? Nor did he attend law school. I'm surprised you couldn't make those distinctions, having attended an elite law school.<br /><br />The original context, before your equivocation, was your mentioning that few faculty members at your own school were intellectuals. That's not at all surprising. The 16th school in your "Top 16" ranking naturally isn't going to have the best faculty. But a few truly elite law schools do have a good portion of intellectuals among their faculty. And their graduates aren't ashamed to name their schools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-85540409936211213832016-01-13T08:33:29.136-07:002016-01-13T08:33:29.136-07:00Newbie solos who know how to game a computer. They...Newbie solos who know how to game a computer. They have 10 AVVO rankings, and remake themselves as experts with slick websites. There is one attorney in my jurisdiction who blew off a federal law suit and ended up with a half million dollar judgment being entered against him. This newbie solo was disbarred.Captain Hurska Carswell, Continuance Kingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-75408722792723948222016-01-12T19:57:43.164-07:002016-01-12T19:57:43.164-07:00Believe what you will. I know which law school I a...Believe what you will. I know which law school I attended, and I don't need your approval. I use the word "élite" advisedly: the élite schools are élite not in quality but in aristocratic pedigree. And if you think that they teem with intellectuals, you are mistaken. They have intellectuals but also many imbeciles <i>à la</i> George W. Bush.<br /><br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-44662200203681037632016-01-12T15:50:24.958-07:002016-01-12T15:50:24.958-07:00With very few intellectuals, your "elite"...With very few intellectuals, your "elite" school really doesn't qualify. <br /><br />Face it. You got scammed. It wasn't anything like a truly elite school. That's why you're here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-81354732000619661622016-01-12T12:02:07.903-07:002016-01-12T12:02:07.903-07:00@9:58 -- about that
Most landlord/tenant matters...@9:58 -- about that <br /><br />Most landlord/tenant matters get handled at the municipal court level, where people generally act pro se. It's rare that you have such a lawsuit in excess of $3,000.<br /><br />I also want to draw your attention to the legions of attorneys doing insurance-related civil litigation. These people spin wheels just to create billable events, thereby charging the insurance company (which up 'till now blindly reimbursed them). <br /><br />If you are a plaintiff, you're aggressively recruiting plaintiffs, either by TV commercials, visiting union halls or chasing ambulances. I even heard of law firms deliberately sending disabled people into stores in order to identify alleged "violations" of the ADA -- but, it's all a scam to get some money in settlements. <br /><br />Then, we also have the "copyright trolls." These are my personal favorite, since I deal with them all the time. <br /><br />My point being that ALL these people are doing unnecessary work, thereby harassing people just to create problems for them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-7507872603083225552016-01-12T09:58:35.548-07:002016-01-12T09:58:35.548-07:00@2:20,
But we're led to believe that lawsuits...@2:20,<br /><br />But we're led to believe that lawsuits are filed merely fighting for the little guy. Thousands get screwed over by landlords and they need all of the pro bono services that can be rendered. Perhaps law school professors would realize, if they had practiced law, just how many suits are filed simply to get at the money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-37449964837836842582016-01-11T20:33:47.677-07:002016-01-11T20:33:47.677-07:00Not too many professors engage significantly in ed...Not too many professors engage significantly in education or the quest for knowledge. Even at my élite school, relatively few could be called intellectuals. <br /><br />Law professors are hardly struggling to stay alive. Look at the salaries that have been discussed here. This Testy snob was getting $241k per year as a professor, before being appointed dean. <br /><br />Law professors know the score. They are complicit in the scam, along with the deans and the ABA hacks and the Infilaw flim-flam artists.<br /><br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-80389952464095987912016-01-11T20:09:10.921-07:002016-01-11T20:09:10.921-07:00Building on 7:22's sound observation, I'd ...Building on 7:22's sound observation, I'd point to what law-skule hacks call intersectionality. A top school plus rich parents almost always spells a good result. A top school without the rich parents may be disastrous. I'm the poster boy for that.<br /><br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-4617255123286474492016-01-11T17:48:40.592-07:002016-01-11T17:48:40.592-07:00Law school academicians are shameless in masquerad...Law school academicians are shameless in masquerading as gatekeepers, guardians and partners in the legal profession. Their actions over the last few years confirm they don’t care Jack Shit about the profession. In fact, they are destroying it for personal gain. <br /><br />Not only have they steadily flooded the profession with lawyers over the years, but when this problem has come into sharp focus at a juncture when law could use positive support, they challenge the integrity of bar examinations, assert that commonly accepted yardsticks of scholastic achievement are vacuous, and set open admissions. They refuse to publically acknowledge a gross imbalance between supply and demand in the legal marketplace, and they advocate that inexperienced graduates go solo –the consuming public be damned. Their self interest is always placed first.<br /><br />The majority of law schools represented at this junket should be closed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-77936082488913132342016-01-11T14:57:13.159-07:002016-01-11T14:57:13.159-07:00As practitioners, we should encourage academic fli...As practitioners, we should encourage academic flights of fancy and discourse. Education and the quest for knowledge is a good thing. God bless the professors for engaging in that. I used the philosophy of the Harvard Law Dean in a traffic matter before a court. The real issue is Over Capacity in the legal market.<br /><br />I understand where you are coming from. Being an Underemployed Attorney really sucks when your sister has a shitty BA from a shitty school and makes three times what I do. My dad did better in 1983 in actual dollars than I did for the last two years of my practice.<br /><br />The Prawfs are like us, utility maximizers. They don't want to walk the streets and mope around for clients and work, like you and I do. They are trying to stay alive. You really can't blame them. What you can blame are the Deans, the ABA and the money people (private equity) that runs some of the diploma mills. The ABA continues to accredit schools... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-53670701378344121312016-01-11T14:20:24.012-07:002016-01-11T14:20:24.012-07:00Frankly, the legal industry creates problems for p...Frankly, the legal industry creates problems for people. The glut of attorneys has caused lawyers to "prey" upon the general public just so that lawyers can remain solvent.<br /><br />With fewer lawyers, there would be fewer lawsuits, thus less people would need legal representation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-37947851051254717602016-01-11T13:21:50.724-07:002016-01-11T13:21:50.724-07:00Perhaps they could discuss this recent action by t...Perhaps they could discuss this recent action by the SCOTUS and law school debt <br /><br />http://finance.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-denies-appeal-on-student-loan-erasure-163829406.html<br /><br />and why this person was depressed, an alcoholic, and had a criminal record (and failed the bar exam twice)....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-13868835098944455122016-01-11T12:13:46.436-07:002016-01-11T12:13:46.436-07:00This Spearit guy looks to be another great example...This Spearit guy looks to be another great example of academic nepotism. Let's take a look at his credentials: neither his PhD nor his JD are with honors, he wasn't on the flagship law review (rather, a participation trophy specialty journal) and has no federal clerkship or biglaw experience. (Indeed, his "summer associate" position was at a 4 lawyer firm). I wonder who he knew that got him his current cushy gig?<br />Given his name, I'd wager he's a walking caricature of a pretentious leftist academic, in the vein of Dougie Fresh pond cummings. At least Dougie Fresh has a few years of practice experience, if memory serves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-82142379851783363302016-01-11T11:10:38.793-07:002016-01-11T11:10:38.793-07:00I feel a law review article coming on...
"Am ...I feel a law review article coming on...<br />"Am I the Butcher's Dog? Cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias among law professors."<br /><br />Seriously, if I hadn't suffered through years of unemployment, depression and anxiety after going to my Toilet, I would be laughing at these useless clowns. <br /><br />No more than one or two schools will close down, even if the matriculation numbers keep going down. Something structural needs to change to get these rancid Toilets to shut their doors for good. <br /><br />There is a chapter in For Whom The Bell Tolls that describes the leftist takeover of a town. The allies of Franco such as the priests, the rich shopkeepers, etc are rounded up and forced to run a gauntlet. As they reach the end, they are thrown off a cliff. Occasionally I imagine something similar figuratively happening to law professors as they are kicked out of their defunct schools. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-75055188539313133142016-01-11T09:40:29.818-07:002016-01-11T09:40:29.818-07:00Testy sure looks like a pig.Testy sure looks like a pig.LawDadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-23578183332404818522016-01-11T09:26:49.644-07:002016-01-11T09:26:49.644-07:001-10: Great list, guys! 1-10: Great list, guys! Old Ruster from JDJunkyardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01223553546778880542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-25409400265676107962016-01-11T09:26:17.156-07:002016-01-11T09:26:17.156-07:00Haven't you heard? Attending any law school, f...Haven't you heard? Attending any law school, from Harvard to TJSL, provides one with a million dollar wage premium over the course of a lifetime. This is without regard to grades or any demographic factor. It's really quite miraculous how simple it is.<br /><br />This fact was discovered by highly qualified researchers who are entirely disinterested from the law school industry.<br /><br />http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2250585<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-12541524382304421932016-01-11T07:22:32.433-07:002016-01-11T07:22:32.433-07:00Making a blanket statement that going to law schoo...Making a blanket statement that going to law school is a "good investment" is absurd. Whether or not law school “pays off” for any given person is dependent upon a number of variables - which is to say that for some people, law school can be a good investment, and for others, it can lead to catastrophe. The three most important variables:<br /><br />1. Which law school are you “investing” in? NYU - you’ll probably be OK. NYLS - that’s another story.<br /><br />2. Where do you rank at your law school? Top 10% and law review at a T2 - again, you’ll probably be OK. Bottom half at the same school - you’re in trouble baby.<br /><br />3. Who’s paying for this “investment?” Mom and dad footing the bill - lucky you. $150 K in non-nonchargeable debt, that’s when we start throwing around words like catastrophic.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-57269056004577864082016-01-10T22:52:23.516-07:002016-01-10T22:52:23.516-07:00Testy and her fellow overpaid scamsters remind me ...Testy and her fellow overpaid scamsters remind me of the poverty pimps who get obscene salaries for eliminating hunger in the Third World but do absolutely nothing towards that end. (If they did eliminate hunger, they would also eliminate their sinecures.)<br /><br />Plenty of people would take Testy's job for $50k, even less—and would perform it with at least as much aplomb. Fire her hypocritical ass, stick someone in at $50k, and spend the hundreds of thousands in savings on legal services to foster "human flourishing".<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-40010102186872660492016-01-10T22:18:37.047-07:002016-01-10T22:18:37.047-07:00I didn't know that Costco, Shell, Toyota, Com ...I didn't know that Costco, Shell, Toyota, Com Ed, Verizon accept free legal services! Wow! Can I take some free classes at the U. of Washington Law School for the sake of "human flourishing?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-31292588832683452142016-01-10T21:58:54.595-07:002016-01-10T21:58:54.595-07:00Oops, sorry I didn't catch the facetiousness.
...Oops, sorry I didn't catch the facetiousness.<br /><br />Incoming AALS President Kellye Testy is a particularly dire example of self-interest and gross hypocrisy cloaking itself in noble rhetoric. <br /><br />Watch Testy yap about the importance of pro bono (. . . Because, I believe the legal profession is ultimately one of service, and that it is a privilege to be a part of it and our job is to help promote justice and human flourishing for all of the world's people, not just those who can pay for it").<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AGctT3XtKs<br /><br />Yet this same Testy graduated from law school in 1991 and became a lawprof in 1992. As I read her CV, her only job as a practicing lawyer was a one-year federal appellate clerkship.<br /><br />https://www.law.washington.edu/directory/CV/TestyKellye.pdf<br /><br />In 2009, Testy was hired as University of Washington Law Dean at $352,000. which even a certain hysterical law school tout acknowledged was "eye catching." (Her salary as a law professor was a mere $241,000).<br /><br />http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2009/05/kellye-testy-new-dean-at-university-of-washington.html<br /><br />At these salaries, it is a reasonable that Testy has millions in saving, clearly placing her in a position to devote the rest of her career to pro bono. I await her decision to do so, for the sake of "human flourishing." <br />dybbuk123https://www.blogger.com/profile/08142974443119061724noreply@blogger.com