tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post3730868610082711281..comments2024-03-28T10:56:31.720-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: Here's To A Great 2013Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-64952533728711342982014-01-02T10:24:43.407-07:002014-01-02T10:24:43.407-07:00Great Job to you all. It gives me such satisfacti...Great Job to you all. It gives me such satisfaction to see these law school pigs with their backs up against the wall. LawDadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-12001252883938117842014-01-01T22:38:01.715-07:002014-01-01T22:38:01.715-07:00Let me point out exactly how Leiter's fantasy ...Let me point out exactly how Leiter's fantasy world will fall apart within the next few years.<br /><br />(1) Incoming students to Chicago will tend to be less willing to pay enormous amounts in tuition, along with the annual unjustified increases that have caused so much poverty and misery among law students. Chicago will reduce its tuition and Leiter's salary will decrease.<br /><br />(2) Very few Chicago law graduates will get hired anywhere as law professors. Since Leiter, like most law professors at Top 10 schools, derives satisfaction and prestige from teaching future professors, his satisfaction and prestige will decrease. Hopefully, this will decrease his arrogance as well, or at least put an end to enormous and unjustified increases in his arrogance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-10178430486064350832014-01-01T01:34:01.092-07:002014-01-01T01:34:01.092-07:00Bloggers be proud. This article is exhibit A that ...Bloggers be proud. This article is exhibit A that your work has had a tremendous impact. The Huff Post article is the desperate rambling of a desperate man. It's clear the scam is now common knowledge and he is trying to control the message. His characterization of Dybbuk is so exaggerated because he wants so badly to contaminate the messenger, but the truth is the message cannot be refuted, and they have no choice but to fight to obscure it.<br /><br />Clearly in a silent place the dominoes have already begun falling. Cry as they might, they only appear as fools. A barrel of ink can't save you BrianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-55343089718157452882013-12-31T23:17:35.813-07:002013-12-31T23:17:35.813-07:00Given your boxing metaphor, I'd prefer to see ...Given your boxing metaphor, I'd prefer to see their snouts and asses "on the canvas."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-8002478024470807582013-12-31T22:43:33.043-07:002013-12-31T22:43:33.043-07:00I think Leiter's reasoning would be that anyon...I think Leiter's reasoning would be that anyone who spends a lot of time posting online can't be spending much time doing their job.<br /><br />And since Leiter spends a lot of time posting online...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-62294622532992020412013-12-31T18:58:28.872-07:002013-12-31T18:58:28.872-07:00Leiter writes: "(Ironically, it may have beco...Leiter writes: "(Ironically, it may have become too steep: we are on track to have more jobs than graduates seeking work by 2016, according to The National Jurist.)" <br /><br />Let's just say this does happen (it won't of course), but say it does - couldn't underemployed graduates from previous years take those jobs? Leiter would probably say no, because he seems to believe the vast majority of lawyers, even those who graduated over the past six years, are all doing very well thank you very much, and would have no interest in taking entry level jobs. <br /><br />In the Leiter-verse law has been, and always will be, an extremely rewarding and lucrative career, even for recent graduates. All these complaints from scambloggers and others are just a tiny disaffected minority of slackers who probably wouldn't do well even in boom times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-29613958934109903002013-12-31T18:54:20.704-07:002013-12-31T18:54:20.704-07:00Leiter erroneously says or glosses that the scambl...Leiter erroneously says or glosses that the scambloggers are unemployed in his part 2.<br /><br />He also presented a full 2 part nervous wreck jumping from subject to subject display and with hardly any comments to follow.<br /><br />Is that the best Leiter can do? Kind of sadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-29703908099478716292013-12-31T18:18:36.771-07:002013-12-31T18:18:36.771-07:00Things Leiter ignores:
1. Tuition was escalating...Things Leiter ignores:<br /><br />1. Tuition was escalating relative to CPI prior to the recession.<br />2. Law professor salaries were escalating relative to market value prior to the recession.<br />3. Job opportunities and billable opportunities per capita have been dropping since prior to the recession thanks to technological advances that began 30 years ago.<br />4. Twenty-one (21) ABA-accredited or seeking-accreditation law schools have opened in the last 20 years.<br />5. Law schools and law professors are the only entities that have profited immensely from the situation of legal education for the past 25-30 years.<br />6. Large law firms started closing partnership ranks prior to the recession.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-83170975997447144992013-12-31T17:43:53.873-07:002013-12-31T17:43:53.873-07:00Happy New Year to all of you. It has been fun put...Happy New Year to all of you. It has been fun putting the pigs up against the ropes, and beating them in the face and snout with brutal left hooks and right crosses. The goal is to put their faces and asses in the ground.Nandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06423524039657355134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-72348777031431087382013-12-31T14:49:20.039-07:002013-12-31T14:49:20.039-07:00When does part II come out? When does part II come out? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-6513210541081169342013-12-31T13:38:03.445-07:002013-12-31T13:38:03.445-07:00Leiter couldn't let 2013 slip away without hav...Leiter couldn't let 2013 slip away without having the last word!<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-leiter/law-schools-cyber-hysteria_b_4517107.html<br /><br />Happy New Year to everyone here. Please keep up the good work. 2014 will be an even better year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-36608018789027157822013-12-31T13:35:36.119-07:002013-12-31T13:35:36.119-07:00I agree that he's re-hashing myths (i.e., lies...I agree that he's re-hashing myths (i.e., lies) that law school supporters argue:<br /><br />1. Everything was just fine before the 2008 recession hit. The legal job market was bad way before that.<br /><br />2. Student loans became non-dischargable in 2005. Clearly, student loans were non-dischargable way before 2005.<br /><br />3. It's not the fault of law schools. Apparently, they shouldn't be blamed for the high tuition.<br /><br />Lastly, I don't think he was joking when he suggested that his salary should be doubled to increase the prestige of his law school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-78449821244666599212013-12-31T12:52:39.197-07:002013-12-31T12:52:39.197-07:00Two jobs for every grad. Yippee!! Happy days are h...Two jobs for every grad. Yippee!! Happy days are here again. Kool aid will flow in the streams. <br /><br />But what about all those 9 year lawyers struggling to launch a microfirm having been dumped from big law over the past 25 years??<br /><br />Unemployment and underemployment. They're not just for newly minted lawyers anymore. <br /><br />Happy new year. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-25220174809178862452013-12-31T12:31:18.296-07:002013-12-31T12:31:18.296-07:00Thank you BoCo. States bars must raise the level ...Thank you BoCo. States bars must raise the level of state bar exams like Michigan has done. The bar pass rate for the commode law schools will plummet. Law schools produce too many lawyers that cannot write and think. Only the state bars can be proactive because ABA has no vision and no control of the legal profession. They are going to accredit 4 more schools. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-12808668485458233572013-12-31T11:55:34.375-07:002013-12-31T11:55:34.375-07:00"This country doesn’t need, can’t support, an..."This country doesn’t need, can’t support, and isn’t now supporting the EXISTING number of professional attorneys"<br /><br />Maybe that is why they abolished them in 2015 in Back to the Future Part II.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-83905094449409403852013-12-31T11:33:19.407-07:002013-12-31T11:33:19.407-07:00Leiter is an uebermensch, a superior being, and th...Leiter is an uebermensch, a superior being, and the destiny of an uebermensch is to demand that the untermenschen, the inferior beings, give him whatever he wants. If they have to borrow to do it, that's their problem. He's far above all that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-68965322106542915512013-12-31T11:25:26.616-07:002013-12-31T11:25:26.616-07:00After 20 years of observation, you are entirely co...After 20 years of observation, you are entirely correct "Acceptable long term outcomes- let alone careers- in law are now as rare as hen's teeth" !!!! completely true!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-3047224248184196972013-12-31T10:55:44.963-07:002013-12-31T10:55:44.963-07:00Leiter expects "more jobs than graduates"...Leiter expects "more jobs than graduates" in 2016 folks, so this is the best time in decades to apply to apply to Law School. LOL. You really almost have to feel bad for this little man. His entire ego and identity are wrapped up in being a big shot Prof at UC, and he sees his entire world being demeaned by the law school crises. Even UC is reducing admission standards. My cousin got in with a 165 LSAT. Not bad, but not typically UC material. On the other hand he is full pay . . so helping to pay Leiter's salary (and he is from a poor background, which means he is borrowing every penny for tuition and costs). I'm sure Leiter has no problems taking his money so he can enter this Narcissistic and Psychopathic profession. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-38955983123661097522013-12-31T10:47:40.701-07:002013-12-31T10:47:40.701-07:00@ 8:35
You're right, this first article looks ...@ 8:35<br />You're right, this first article looks to be setting up his argument (the recession caused the problem, and students should have known better). <br /><br />I'm anticipating an attack based on the foreshadowing in his final sentences:<br />"What was surprising was a new "meme" that took hold in cyberspace: that this economic catastrophe was actually the fault of law schools and law professors! I return to that topic in Part II."<br /><br />Might be worthwhile to get out in front of this one. Would HuffPo publish a counter-argument...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-50748523694547910742013-12-31T10:28:52.557-07:002013-12-31T10:28:52.557-07:00My goal for 2014 is to engage the leadership of my...My goal for 2014 is to engage the leadership of my state bar association and encourage the bar to take a stand on the issue(s) raised by the contributors on this blog. I will be attending a meeting with the new bar president in January. Unfortunately, the deans of the two law schools in the state appear to have a lot of influence with leadership. I will report back in late January. Happy New year all!BoConoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-79437574453442285912013-12-31T10:28:03.320-07:002013-12-31T10:28:03.320-07:00Even Harvard Law professor Elizabeth Warren was fo...Even Harvard Law professor Elizabeth Warren was forced to admit in 2012 that "the system is rigged." That was when Campos was still scamblogging, and the progress since then has been monumental. <br /><br />Congratulations to all our contributors, especially those who have "directly engaged professors" about urgent issues of public concern. There are some pampered and conceited buffoons out there who've never had to answer to taxpayers, former students, and the general public about "what's going on in there." I hope the New Year brings enlightenment to a few professors, and that others find out exactly how obnoxious their actions and attitudes are to normal working people.<br /><br />Keep up the good work. There are thousands of lives every year that need to be saved, and this blog is like a crisis line to prevent financial suicide. All the best to everyone in 2014.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-616056622328537992013-12-31T09:54:57.244-07:002013-12-31T09:54:57.244-07:00Great work OTLSS contributors!
The large decline ...Great work OTLSS contributors!<br /><br />The large decline in law school enrollment is especially striking because the population is peaking for the general grad school age group. In the next few years, the population of this vulnerable age group will decrease . With continued scamblogging, enrollment should fall even further even faster. Keep up the great work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-14663202473329764362013-12-31T09:35:24.556-07:002013-12-31T09:35:24.556-07:00Leiter more or less talks like a politician and ne...Leiter more or less talks like a politician and never really says anything, and drones on about a history and large trends and a big macroeconomic picture.<br /><br />But where does he go after scambloggers? All I saw was a link to the old NY Times article. He has a part II coming up so wait and see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-18796400364916076582013-12-31T08:42:13.309-07:002013-12-31T08:42:13.309-07:00It's his usual MO: paint scambloggers as malco...It's his usual MO: paint scambloggers as malcontents who are denigrating a perfectly working system. He's a joke.MAhttp://www.thelawschoolscam.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-43381530150763610472013-12-31T07:46:17.409-07:002013-12-31T07:46:17.409-07:00FYI folks, good old professor Leiter is going afte...FYI folks, good old professor Leiter is going after scambloggers on Huffington Post- <br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-leiter/american-law-schools_b_4508504.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com