tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post3430585982999955356..comments2024-03-27T20:23:56.493-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: Business Insider Survey Reveals Evaluation of Law School Must Require Statistical ChincaneryUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-721193901795492432014-12-03T10:15:07.942-07:002014-12-03T10:15:07.942-07:00Crazy Eddie went to jail because what he did was i...Crazy Eddie went to jail because what he did was illegal.<br /><br />The law schools, in contrast, are running a legal scam. Repeat that: A legal scam.<br /><br />No one has been touched in the slightest. And I highly doubt they will be, ever.<br /><br />The only way to hurt the Law School Scam Industry is what is being done now: Keeping the word out there about the Scam and thus fostering enrollment decline. The only way right now to beat this legal scam is to starve it into submission.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-71527063516886465382014-12-03T09:03:38.808-07:002014-12-03T09:03:38.808-07:00LSTC writes mostly nonparody on the otlss site.LSTC writes mostly nonparody on the otlss site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-26954439073233965642014-12-02T18:00:48.937-07:002014-12-02T18:00:48.937-07:00...sounds like the "crazy eddie's" e......sounds like the "crazy eddie's" electronics store commercials on late night tv..."we've slashed our tuition prices so much the competition thinks we are in-sane"<br /><br />Just remember, the real life crazy Eddie, eddie antwar went to jailAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-73381469369572072952014-12-02T16:30:37.938-07:002014-12-02T16:30:37.938-07:00Yes, but you can drop (2), as it is not a big issu...Yes, but you can drop (2), as it is not a big issue at those schools that rank high according to (1).<br /><br />Old Guy<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-69649046946313891292014-12-02T16:27:16.716-07:002014-12-02T16:27:16.716-07:00Weissmann is a shill for the law-school scam. He&#...Weissmann is a shill for the law-school scam. He's hostile to a few Cooleys, but he continues to promote law school as a good option. For those who have neither piles of money nor connections, even Harvard and Yale are questionable, and the advisability of attending other law schools drops precipitously with rank.<br /><br />I don't agree that "schools are doing everything in their power to pare back expenses". They're doing everything in their power to stay in business. <br /><br />Old Guy<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-22244337751837997742014-12-02T13:14:27.112-07:002014-12-02T13:14:27.112-07:00OT, but I saw this article in Slate yesterday abou...OT, but I saw this article in Slate yesterday about the impending closing of several law schools: http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/12/01/law_school_applications_collapse_get_ready_for_schools_to_start_closing.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-82518488126237044362014-12-02T10:55:37.737-07:002014-12-02T10:55:37.737-07:00Just a guess, but they probably trolled linkedin a...Just a guess, but they probably trolled linkedin and large firm websites for "legal professionals" with available email addresses.<br /><br />Then you just load the survey content and desired respondent pool email addresses into the tool and it sends invitations to the targeted respondents. (I have no clue, though, how it might work if you did not supply a respondent pool.)<br /><br />Although it's got a funky name, SurveyMonkey is becoming fairly well accepted for doing targeted surveys; e.g., I've gotten serious surveys from large, stodgy corps.<br /><br />Of course, any survey is only as good as its questions and targeting and, as LSTC notes above in a rare instance of non-parody, neither criterion seems fulfilled in this case.Imagining a Buzz Leityear Conniptionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-3487172253139131312014-12-02T10:48:44.882-07:002014-12-02T10:48:44.882-07:00BoCo, thanks much for bringing attention to that a...BoCo, thanks much for bringing attention to that article. They hit most of the high points.<br /><br />Love this one:<br />' “It’s insane,” Professor Rodriguez [dean at Northwestern] said. “We’re in hand-to-hand combat with other schools.” 'Imagining a Buzz Leityear Conniptionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-30494625484389382232014-12-02T10:40:47.292-07:002014-12-02T10:40:47.292-07:00Sorry Brian!Sorry Brian!Imagining a Buzz Leityear Conniptionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-86887836604624564002014-12-02T09:02:48.550-07:002014-12-02T09:02:48.550-07:00"Weird order, with Chicago so far down."..."Weird order, with Chicago so far down."<br /><br />Perhaps they are using the Cooley Scale.Barry DeCiccohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735814736387033844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-87438591595853612702014-12-02T04:27:02.904-07:002014-12-02T04:27:02.904-07:00Close, Cooley did actually change its name to West...Close, Cooley did actually change its name to Western Michigan, which puts it around number 8.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-15826354438546628532014-12-02T03:47:19.498-07:002014-12-02T03:47:19.498-07:00A law schools's ranking is only important as a...A law schools's ranking is only important as an indicator of <br /><br />(1) your likelihood of obtaining a full time, permanent job that requires a law degree with the "likelihood" compenent determined by your class rank at that school, and<br /><br />(2) your probability of passing the bar exam on the first attempt.<br /><br />Everything else is fluff, although given the animal law and sports law programs at specific law schools, it is expensive fluff.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-13335617363538797462014-12-01T23:01:43.512-07:002014-12-01T23:01:43.512-07:00In other news, Cooley has now changed it's nam...In other news, Cooley has now changed it's named to zCooley and has obtained the top spot in the Old Guy screwl ranking! El Presidente Le Dec has awarded himself a much deserved bonus for this brilliant maneuver.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-28755502943337684592014-12-01T19:16:32.875-07:002014-12-01T19:16:32.875-07:00Weird order, with Chicago so far down.Weird order, with Chicago so far down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-68601921150978242312014-12-01T18:34:35.773-07:002014-12-01T18:34:35.773-07:00The methodology page explains the components of th...The methodology page explains the components of the ranking, but says nothing about how the survey (which counts for 50% of the ranking) was conducted! Well, actually, it does provide one bit of info-- that Business Insider used a firm called Survey Monkey.<br /><br />According to the Survey Monkey site, "SurveyMonkey Audience has millions of people ready to take your surveys." It further states that clients can "Pick your custom audience."<br /><br />https://www.surveymonkey.com/mp/audience/<br /><br />Who are these Survey Monkey survey takers, out there in their teeming millions? Are they compensated? They must be, because why would anyone provide their time and attention to a data collection firm for free? Do some Survey Monkey survey takers designate themselves as legal professionals, entitling them and only them to take customized surveys about the legal profession? They must, because how else would Survey Monkey be able to target "legal professionals"?<br /><br />I am thinking that here is real JD-Advantage work-- taking online surveys about the legal profession. Survey Monkey, you have saved our profession. <br />dybbuk123https://www.blogger.com/profile/08142974443119061724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-17068089201046078202014-12-01T17:37:31.703-07:002014-12-01T17:37:31.703-07:00Indeed, only the flashy headline is meant to be re...Indeed, only the flashy headline is meant to be read. The calculation is that people will assume that the text supports it. <br /><br />Why don't I jump on the bandwagon of rating law skules? Here, for the first time ever, is the Old Guy Top 5:<br /><br />Yale<br />Wyoming<br />Wisconsin<br />William Mitchell<br />William & Mary<br /><br />My über-scientific methodology features a single criterion: reverse alphabetical order. (I had to start at the end so that Yale would be on top, lending my ranking more respectability than if I had started with Akron.)<br /><br />Old Guy<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-23901312795111473952014-12-01T16:30:58.451-07:002014-12-01T16:30:58.451-07:00Do TTTTs get extra credit if they're located i...Do TTTTs get extra credit if they're located in the state's capital city?!?! That seems to be on every toilet's website, as if that makes it somehow more desirable or means that the job market is better. Who gives a damn if your commode is located in the capital of Wyoming or Delaware?Nandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06423524039657355134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-84476381187352161392014-12-01T16:29:02.647-07:002014-12-01T16:29:02.647-07:00OT but must read: Law School Becomes Buyers’ Marke...OT but must read: Law School Becomes Buyers’ Market as Competition for Best Students Increases<br /><br />http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/12/01/law-school-becomes-buyers-market-as-competition-for-best-students-increases/?ref=businessBoConoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-68425348086654947362014-12-01T15:54:44.227-07:002014-12-01T15:54:44.227-07:00Paradoxically, schools with the lowest bar passage...Paradoxically, schools with the lowest bar passage rates usually devote many more resources to preparing their students than do t1 and t2 schools, so I think we can safely say the former is the correct explanation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-87513954628299641762014-12-01T12:39:55.669-07:002014-12-01T12:39:55.669-07:00Ranking a law school by bar examination results is...Ranking a law school by bar examination results is one indicator of the law school's performance. When year after year the bar passage rates of a law school are dismally low, it seems they are doing something wrong. Whether it be admitting academically deficient students or substandard teaching methods, the result shows in one nationwide test. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-56327258127814774252014-12-01T07:24:02.973-07:002014-12-01T07:24:02.973-07:00"Click HERE for One Weird Trick on how to suc..."Click HERE for One Weird Trick on how to succeed at Law School and get the BigLaw job of your dreams...Stay to the end of the video, the results will SHOCK you!!!"dupednontraditionalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170022654810216357noreply@blogger.com