tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post249514802289685935..comments2024-03-27T20:23:56.493-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: Brooklyn Law to Offer RefundUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-50849613665376354272015-07-26T12:36:01.392-06:002015-07-26T12:36:01.392-06:00Some graduates of lower ranked schools get jobs, e...Some graduates of lower ranked schools get jobs, even at big firms, and are very successful. Just that the odds are probably not that good.<br /><br />You have to remember, HYSCCN are not relevant once a lawyer hits age 45 or 50, At that point, a nubile 32 year old from Brooklyn who landed in a good starting job will be likely to beat the more credentialed lawyer for many jobs. You have to understand the age discrimination factor in law to understand why a graduate of a low ranked school actually may be better off than the older top law school graduates.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-87893900283057043562015-07-26T12:30:38.322-06:002015-07-26T12:30:38.322-06:00The best comparison between law schools and medica...The best comparison between law schools and medical schools is to compare U.S. law schools that do not have high placement rates to Caribbean medical schools, where it really is hard to get a residency. You enroll in both at your peril.<br /><br />In the past there were Ivy-type graduates with strong GPAs who were wait listed at all U.S. medical schools because they were just below the cut off, and they went Caribbean. Now, with more medical school slots opening in the U.S., fewer of the high quality people will end up in the Caribbean.<br /><br />It is possible not to get a residency from a U.S. medical school, but it often relates more to how people apply, and can sometimes be fixed by trying a second time.<br /><br />The big problem with residencies is the rash of visas being issued. The United States is paying to train the world's doctors and rejecting our own medical school graduates. <br /><br />There are a number of residency programs that are all non-U.S. medical school graduates. Since there are U.S. medical school graduates without a residency, it seems that these programs may discriminate against graduates of U.S. medical schools and/ or against U.S. citizens. <br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-91086954453727671282015-07-22T22:23:30.754-06:002015-07-22T22:23:30.754-06:00Thanks, 7:22, for drawing this news to my attentio...Thanks, 7:22, for drawing this news to my attention.<br /><br />Indiana Tech has finally hired someone to help its hopeless students to find jobs. Just a few weeks ago I pointed out that Indiana Tech had not even one person dedicated to that task—but did have a full-time recruiter of new student-loan conduits. Mind you, the prospects of Indiana Tech's orange-yellow centurions won't be any better now there is, in principle, a functioning "career services" office.<br /><br />And note that the ABA called for "academic support"—in other words, remedial help for Indiana Tech's generally muttonheaded class.<br /><br />And the ABA wasn't satisfied with the quality of the students that Indiana Tech admits. Perhaps Dougie Fresh will have to stop saying that 143 is a "serviceable" LSAT score.<br /><br />By dropping tuition to zero, they have only proven that their law school is worthless. <br /><br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-6465484643444751492015-07-22T19:21:54.873-06:002015-07-22T19:21:54.873-06:00Oh, and check this out from that site. One guy los...Oh, and check this out from that site. One guy lost close to 500,000 on a "The Maids" franchise.. Wow.. That's mind-numbing Epic Fail.<br /><br />http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/maids-franchise-complaints/<br /><br />And here's his site:<br /><br />http://themaidsfranchisestartupfailure.com/<br /><br />Note the language:<br /><br />"When we attended Discovery Day (if you don't know yet that is the visit to the Omaha headquarters where The Maids decides whether you are allowed to purchase a franchise) we were sold a "dream". Colin said "franchises are handed down from father to son" and it sounded like the opportunity of a lifetime. Eighteen months later, we know that we were sold a dream but we bought a nightmare. Almost half a million dollars are gone, we are totally and completely exhausted after a period of the hardest work of our lives and we were not able push the business past break even for a sustained period. Perhaps the best description of the experience came from my wife Marlene who said "it sucks all the joy out of life"."<br /><br />Sounds a lot like what law schools do, right?<br /><br />You are being sold a Dream - but end up with a nightmare. And, unlike this story, you CAN'T discharge the debt and go bankrupt..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-8167568801369850452015-07-22T16:20:19.504-06:002015-07-22T16:20:19.504-06:00Exactly!
Great catch 2:13 PM.
And I saw this as ...Exactly!<br /><br />Great catch 2:13 PM.<br /><br />And I saw this as well:<br /><br />http://jdunderground.com/all/thread.php?threadId=92756<br /><br />But, you know, then there's Pace with it's 3 + 3 program. Come out $250,000 in debt at 24-25-26. It'll be no problem - no problem - paying that off and living a middle-class lifestyle.<br /><br />Riiiight...<br /><br />It's like, I was looking at franchises last night and found this site:<br /><br />http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/<br /><br />No one really cares if you succeed or not. In fact, some want you to fail. They'll just re-sell the franchise that much sooner. And looking at the percentages they want off the top, I don't see it as a way to make good profit when Corporate is only interested in grabbing their share.<br /><br />Well, forget all of that.. Now has never been a better time to go to law school or college..<br /><br />Riiight...<br /><br />No. No one cares because those in protected positions get to say they are providing low-cost legal services and meeting the unmet need and closing the "justice gap" etc. while they pull in 6 figures per year doing jack. Meanwhile, your life, the one that matters, is destroyed in the Grand Scheme.<br /><br />Everything today is a scam. Everything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-63050241745497844472015-07-22T15:13:32.997-06:002015-07-22T15:13:32.997-06:00Everyone considering law school should read this a...Everyone considering law school should read this article. In 5 years, 50% of the now practicing lawyers will be replaced by software.<br /><br />https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/silicon-valley-companys-software-starting-divorces-other-court-180545454.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-49827990772235420992015-07-22T13:29:43.373-06:002015-07-22T13:29:43.373-06:00What does this mean for the person who won the $5,...What does this mean for the person who won the $5,000 scholarship raffle? If I were him/her, I would demand that Indian Tech pay me $5K for attending, or at least give me a set of Dr. Dre headphones. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-35224745108813337002015-07-22T08:22:00.293-06:002015-07-22T08:22:00.293-06:00Holy shit, Indiana Tech is on the brink:
http://w...Holy shit, Indiana Tech is on the brink:<br /><br />http://www.kpcnews.com/business/latest/kpcnews/article_17684b90-78b6-502e-888c-4a7f488fce2c.html?mode=jqm<br /><br />They have eliminated tuition for every single one of the poor souls who has agreed to stay for the coming year while they make a last ditch effort to receive accreditation. Their goal is to have 20 students in this year's incoming class, but you know how they are at meeting goals...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-68096113891610215112015-07-21T16:37:57.341-06:002015-07-21T16:37:57.341-06:00The New President of the Florida Bar wants to open...The New President of the Florida Bar wants to open up the practice of law to Non Florida Lawyers and allow Non-Lawyer Owners of Law Firms. I can tell you the trial attorneys are up in arms over this. <br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQisk0sinnYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-30613230783606943992015-07-21T10:05:34.967-06:002015-07-21T10:05:34.967-06:00Good point.Good point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-56069353373145894292015-07-20T10:46:51.591-06:002015-07-20T10:46:51.591-06:00Anon from 7-15 again; that article is genuinely di...Anon from 7-15 again; that article is genuinely disturbing. Especially the kicker that they have invented a burger-flipping machine. Our future is Judge Dredd, with massive unemployment and crime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-20162554520094819432015-07-20T03:34:43.251-06:002015-07-20T03:34:43.251-06:00OTLSS Question: How many hits a day are you guys a...OTLSS Question: How many hits a day are you guys averaging? It looks pretty damn high for a niche blog with no promotion. CONGRATS!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-10155501102572414302015-07-18T22:23:14.813-06:002015-07-18T22:23:14.813-06:00I've actually thought about setting up a bare-...I've actually thought about setting up a bare-bones law school and limiting admission to people with an LSAT score of 160 or greater. Those with demonstrated ability to read, write, and think (not to be taken for granted even at LSAT scores of 170 and up) would be eligible for a correspondence course that would cost even less.<br /><br />Of course, right now I oppose the creation of any more law schools, for any purpose.<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-24565430989696123212015-07-18T16:21:46.499-06:002015-07-18T16:21:46.499-06:00And the faculty would have had substantial practic...And the faculty would have had substantial practice experience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-66153378026830471752015-07-18T14:31:11.436-06:002015-07-18T14:31:11.436-06:00Let's also remember that medical schools, unli...Let's also remember that medical schools, unlike law schools, actually are expensive to operate. A law school could be run with a modest library, some adjuncts, and a few sticks of chalk.Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-31820932579996971042015-07-18T11:49:54.562-06:002015-07-18T11:49:54.562-06:00Maybe... Maybe not. Apparently getting a job at Mc...Maybe... Maybe not. Apparently getting a job at McDonald's is harder than getting into the Ivy League [1]. A Crooklyn grad had a hard time with the latter, and will probably have a hard job with the former.<br /><br />[1] http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-12/getting-job-mcdonalds-harder-getting-accepted-ivy-leagueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-53742955866311246512015-07-18T09:52:40.676-06:002015-07-18T09:52:40.676-06:00The comparison to medical schools is made frequent...The comparison to medical schools is made frequently on this blog, but I'll make it again.....could you imagine ANY medical school offering to refund a percentage of students' tuition if they can't find a residency slot after graduation? Yes, I know that a few students do fail to get matched with a residency each year, but the national total is probably fewer people than the number of unemployed law grads from a single TTT law school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-89778952273940860012015-07-18T06:53:11.066-06:002015-07-18T06:53:11.066-06:00"Unless doc review counts as a "job"..."Unless doc review counts as a "job" I assume their placement is closer to 25%...at best. "<br /><br />I would not even bet my bottle return slip that they won't count that as 'professional legal work'.<br /><br />-BarryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-37027357374405027382015-07-18T05:20:28.439-06:002015-07-18T05:20:28.439-06:00Bridge to Nowhere.Bridge to Nowhere.BamBamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-9921848182030485322015-07-18T01:08:54.796-06:002015-07-18T01:08:54.796-06:00Cui bono? Actually, it's the career services d...Cui bono? Actually, it's the career services department as their budget will likely increase since graduates wanting this refund will be forced to work with these "professionals" who couldn't help them get a job while they were students. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-38903313148214800152015-07-17T23:18:16.445-06:002015-07-17T23:18:16.445-06:00And they have the unmitigated gall to call this sc...And they have the unmitigated gall to call this scheme "Bridge to Success". At best it is a bridge to welfare.<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-51957165156489793892015-07-17T16:00:26.884-06:002015-07-17T16:00:26.884-06:00This is quite true. There are good lawyers but the...This is quite true. There are good lawyers but there are no "good" lawyers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-69142684002420429562015-07-17T15:41:20.879-06:002015-07-17T15:41:20.879-06:00Don't the loans go directly to the school? The...Don't the loans go directly to the school? Then how could this be out-of-pocket?<br /><br />This is just another way that the poorer students will subsidize the wealthier students. If a student pays cash, they will receive a greater refund than one who took out loans.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-44325224175504524752015-07-17T13:07:54.406-06:002015-07-17T13:07:54.406-06:00It's not, I think, that they gave little thoug...It's not, I think, that they gave little thought to the program. In fact, I would guess it's just the opposite. They know what percentage of their graduates are employed FT within 9 months. They can calculate what the program will cost them to pay out, etc. and run different scenarios. They are, in my opinion, putting this out there to do one thing: Try and divert as much Fed. student loan money away from other schools as possible and to themselves. It's a contest right now for student loan money and that is their goal - to get as much as possible. They can change the terms at will as one poster above commented and probably make it so whoever you are, you won't qualify for getting any money back. Remember, no schools have lost in court. They'll do what they do and it'll be just skirting the bounds of legality so that they can keep the money. In other words, doing what they have done best in the past: Running legalized thievery, getting that student loan money which is all they care about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-57069785221224064472015-07-17T11:14:59.585-06:002015-07-17T11:14:59.585-06:00"Does that exclude amounts paid with student ..."Does that exclude amounts paid with student loans?"<br /><br />Yeah, if the student paid for school with student loans, wouldn't the goverment have an interest in the rebate proceeds (especially once the loans are in repayment)? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com