tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post9030482594931200394..comments2024-03-27T20:23:56.493-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: Bar investigation closes. Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-3870768199660716912014-07-22T11:21:57.422-06:002014-07-22T11:21:57.422-06:00Professor at 1:30 PM, I'll give you a 154 for ...Professor at 1:30 PM, I'll give you a 154 for that effort.<br /><br />More likely, Leong's articles weren't getting the traction they needed, so it was time to manufacture a crisis in order to get the attention required. Never mind that these falsehoods cost someone else some actual money, the end justifies the means, of course.<br /><br />"They realized she'd be a good fit for them." Yep. Just like ScamDeans and LawProfs are happy to live off the backs of students, Leong was apparently happy to get someone else to pay for her "stardom." Two peas in a pod.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-90589709802121368712014-07-22T10:35:46.039-06:002014-07-22T10:35:46.039-06:00Well put, 7:21 PM. Many, many LawProfs have demon...Well put, 7:21 PM. Many, many LawProfs have demonstrated themselves to be rather "special", that's for sure.dupednontraditionalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170022654810216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-21012508399297049792014-07-22T10:32:41.597-06:002014-07-22T10:32:41.597-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.dupednontraditionalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170022654810216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-66069063837062587512014-07-21T06:18:00.440-06:002014-07-21T06:18:00.440-06:00There are no "innards" that we have acce...There are no "innards" that we have access to. All we (or I, at least) have access to is an additional page where we can write and edit posts and see very broad stats of site usage that in no way tracks any IP addresses or personal data. There's no means to identify anonymous posters whatsoever. I would put your experience down to Google getting cleverer and cleverer (and creepier), or a coincidence.<br /><br />Were this blog, on the other hand, privately hosted (rather than hosted by Google like this one is), the owner would have access to just about any piece of personal data he or she chose to collect. Commenting on such blogs should be avoided at all costs.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10157020541840080308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-63179313397018143802014-07-21T00:23:31.631-06:002014-07-21T00:23:31.631-06:00There probably wasn't any way to avoid this ca...There probably wasn't any way to avoid this case, ridiculous as it was. Professor Leong, acting on her ideological imperatives, her self-image as a legal pioneer, and some very, very bad moral and legal advice from fellow professors, wasn't about to let this one go.<br /><br />In spite of that, or perhaps because of it, Dybbuk showed great courage and fortitude in fighting the false accusations against him. I've known people in similar situations, and they often had great difficulty concentrating on their work. Dybbuk, however, kept up with a workload that would have left the average law professor huffing and puffing in the courthouse washroom within half an hour.<br /><br />Most important of all, Dybbuk reaffirmed that he's a principled attorney. That's a priceless reputation to have, invaluable to both his social activism and his legal career. I think it's safe to say that many law professors are neither principled nor attorneys, and precious few are both.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-3535056797898915352014-07-20T21:34:10.351-06:002014-07-20T21:34:10.351-06:00I've got to say that I find Law School Lemming...I've got to say that I find Law School Lemmings to be a fascinating enterprise. It's a brilliant idea, really, but I think all of us could show a bit more compassion and understanding for deluded young people who are about to destroy their lives.<br /><br />To some extent, I'd like to follow the example of Dick Dago on LSL and actually contact young people considering law school. Contact is the first stage of intervention. Behind the dull-witted rationalizations and exemption fantasies we see on LSL, there are some precious lives worth saving.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-34383103734497219672014-07-20T17:47:33.496-06:002014-07-20T17:47:33.496-06:00Well, my friends, Rob Illig made an absolute fool ...Well, my friends, Rob Illig made an absolute fool of himself a few months back, but I'm happy to see that he gets around the Internet from time to time. He might learn something.<br /><br />I see Illig as mostly a whiner, with an unrealistic self-image that's been needlessly reinforced by others. He doesn't appear to be possessed by the sneering sadism and Gestapo fixation that torment some of his colleagues. That Illig alert was essentially meaningless until you commented about it in a public forum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-56483736054378867742014-07-20T13:45:36.266-06:002014-07-20T13:45:36.266-06:007:20 am here
Pretty certain I did not ever Google...7:20 am here<br /><br />Pretty certain I did not ever Google him, and am not concerned for myself.<br /><br />But if several other posters have had him pop up on their LinkedIn/Face Book page that might mean someone other than one of this site's administrators has some sort of access to the 'innards' of this site.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-86335443771511045942014-07-20T11:39:15.784-06:002014-07-20T11:39:15.784-06:00Illig probably doesn't have your info. Linked...Illig probably doesn't have your info. Linkedin probably pulled from your prior google activity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-72192217345009989522014-07-20T08:20:24.171-06:002014-07-20T08:20:24.171-06:00Congratulations dybbuk. Great (and right) that you...Congratulations dybbuk. Great (and right) that you prevailed.<br /><br />OT - People I know in real life often show up on my LinkedIn 'People You May Know " page, presumably because they've looked for me on LinkedIn. Today I noticed a name I recognized but of course do not know - Robert Illig, who has been the subject of a post here on OTLSS.<br /><br />I commented on that post (anonymously as always) and I have not signed up for OTLSS's 'follow by email', and yet it appears that somehow Robert Illig found out who I am (not that it matters).<br /><br />Has anyone else noticed his name showing up in "People You May Know" at LinkedIn or Face Book?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-36867927632331617192014-07-19T20:21:25.667-06:002014-07-19T20:21:25.667-06:00We need to distinguish "racist and sexist&quo...We need to distinguish "racist and sexist" comments about individuals from more general observations about the distorted personalities of a substantial number of law professors. Perverse incentives and a lifetime of privilege can turn normal people into raving lunatics, flinging false accusations at the slightest deviation from their fictitious narratives of moral and intellectual superiority. <br /><br />Even Anon Law Prof felt it necessary to mention Brian Leiter, for which I respect the good prof. It's a useful exercise for all of us to observe Leiter's online behavior and then try to differentiate ourselves from that malevolent wretch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-30543694937508801922014-07-19T14:30:23.871-06:002014-07-19T14:30:23.871-06:00Yes, Professor Leong was quite proud of her early ...Yes, Professor Leong was quite proud of her early tenure decision at Denver. I think they realized she'd be a good fit for them.<br /><br />Happily, this case brought attention to the content of her many publications, so her employment situation should be quite stable for the rest of her career.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-62501304972804522892014-07-19T14:13:06.768-06:002014-07-19T14:13:06.768-06:00Dybbuk, the First Amendment doesn't prevent yo...Dybbuk, the First Amendment doesn't prevent you from editing your own blog. It simply prevents Nancy Leong from editing your blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-81008805214537620842014-07-19T14:05:12.942-06:002014-07-19T14:05:12.942-06:00Brian Leiter has nothing to say about this on his ...Brian Leiter has nothing to say about this on his law school blog. He's too busy condemning fellow law professors for writing legal memos that someone will actually read. I think he's losing his mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-47291709034928910972014-07-19T13:29:17.001-06:002014-07-19T13:29:17.001-06:00Leiter invoked a half-baked legal theory to egg on...Leiter invoked a half-baked legal theory to egg on his hapless followers. According to this theory, legal ethics are violated when law professors are held accountable for their inflated promises, lavish expenditures, and ridiculous publications. Since this theory is widely believed at a certain Indiana law school, Leiter is eminently qualified to fill the open deanship there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-68315902291054140912014-07-19T13:05:02.115-06:002014-07-19T13:05:02.115-06:00The privileged, pampered, parasitic law professors...The privileged, pampered, parasitic law professors have learned nothing and forgotten nothing. This could have been a resounding wakeup call for them, but they're still fast asleep. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-54445760613687826512014-07-19T12:55:46.977-06:002014-07-19T12:55:46.977-06:00Apparently Brian Leiter has less influence than he...Apparently Brian Leiter has less influence than he thought. His attempt to make up new laws for the state of Illinois was soundly rejected by actual lawyers. It just goes to show how absurdly out of touch most law professors are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-82315233610006444632014-07-19T12:47:36.093-06:002014-07-19T12:47:36.093-06:00You're a great and courageous man, Dybbuk. Con...You're a great and courageous man, Dybbuk. Congratulations and welcome back!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-47277745976829124062014-07-19T07:23:08.294-06:002014-07-19T07:23:08.294-06:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-1665174045028529082014-07-19T07:11:47.670-06:002014-07-19T07:11:47.670-06:00The ideal punishment for trying to chill discourse...The ideal punishment for trying to chill discourse would be tenure at the University of Denver, where discourse of any kind is a rare and fleeting event.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-48072296171257318592014-07-18T09:39:30.480-06:002014-07-18T09:39:30.480-06:00But further discussion of the narrative is always ...But further discussion of the narrative is always counter productive, assuming participants refresh the page to see new comments.Imagining The Open Toadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-56333059028274822382014-07-18T09:36:22.795-06:002014-07-18T09:36:22.795-06:00Charles, thanks for the reply in explanation.
I a...Charles, thanks for the reply in explanation.<br /><br />I also agree with your intimation in the "assuming..." parenthetical. Based on my view of events as they went along, I have doubts that any level of contrition would have avoided the complaint. Imagining The Open Toadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-45548006412700361102014-07-18T08:15:43.702-06:002014-07-18T08:15:43.702-06:00Yeah! Dybbuk, glad to have you back! I have miss...Yeah! Dybbuk, glad to have you back! I have missed your posts and comments! I hope you get back to blogging/writing right away!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-91405572962689677262014-07-18T05:11:48.152-06:002014-07-18T05:11:48.152-06:00To clarify, I was referring to the initial stages,...To clarify, I was referring to the initial stages, long before the complaint was filed (assuming the complaint wasn't a foregone conclusion and her initial attempts to elicit remorse and retractions from Dybbuk weren't for the purpose of collecting "hard" evidence.) Dybbuk could have backed off in the face of her threats and apologized, but chose to call her bluff - most successfully.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10157020541840080308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-67458191700461202942014-07-18T02:58:20.336-06:002014-07-18T02:58:20.336-06:00I really wish that any law professor who made an u...I really wish that any law professor who made an unsubstantiated ethics charge were required to post that fact at the top of his or her career narrative, or curriculum vitae. What better way to harness the narcissism of the average law professor in the service of a greater social good, namely the application of scarce legal resources to genuine crimes or complaints?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com