tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post865631712366931261..comments2024-03-27T20:23:56.493-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: Stop Dreaming: Law School will never be 'Practical'Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-4238311716012765222013-04-25T06:12:36.566-06:002013-04-25T06:12:36.566-06:00Thanks for the marvelous posting! I definitely enj...Thanks for the marvelous posting! I definitely enjoyed reading it,<br />you happen to be a great author. I will ensure that I <br />bookmark your blog and will often come back in the future.<br /><br />I want to encourage you to continue your great work, have a nice morning!<br /><br /><br />Here is my web blog ... <a href="http://rayzzz.com/PercyLanc" rel="nofollow">how to lose weight quickly</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-85382852294643964062013-03-20T18:39:58.722-06:002013-03-20T18:39:58.722-06:00W&L, that's one school I can't believe...W&L, that's one school I can't believe is in the top ranks. It's regional at best. Not sure how those fuckers scammed their way into the top ranks, but it's an expensive private school in VA, out in the middle of nowhere. Trash. Must have had some connections in the past.<br /><br />I would say that a big city school is far better than W&L.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-66761472701498873202013-03-20T17:41:44.552-06:002013-03-20T17:41:44.552-06:00Great post, Preston.
Have a look at W&L's...Great post, Preston.<br /><br />Have a look at W&L's employment stats at Law School Transparency. 55% of the Class of 2011 got fulltime longterm jobs requiring bar passage. Pretty bad for a T30--you can burrow into the depths of the second tier and find schools with better, or at least comparable numbers. The practicum thingee has generated all sorts of favorable publicity for W&L, but it is striking that employers are unenthusiastic.<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-11575861766083066802013-03-20T16:10:36.115-06:002013-03-20T16:10:36.115-06:00Apocalypse Roach promised us all kinds of terrible...Apocalypse Roach promised us all kinds of terrible miracles and "fallout." <br /><br />Instead of springing into action as anticipated, the police simply laughed at him and told him to fuck off. <br /><br />Now he's molted again - say hello to Bitter Disgruntled Roach!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-34058456311617130902013-03-20T15:25:51.117-06:002013-03-20T15:25:51.117-06:00Why don't you join up and post news stories?Why don't you join up and post news stories?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-77276190324567789242013-03-20T11:59:32.711-06:002013-03-20T11:59:32.711-06:00new lst report released today - what are your thou...new lst report released today - what are your thoughts?<br /><br />also, lsac seems to be way behind on releasing fall 2012 admissions data on their website. clearly all this data is available if its been published via USNWR.<br /><br />http://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/data/lsac-volume-summary.aspAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-31787524646678294222013-03-20T11:58:25.371-06:002013-03-20T11:58:25.371-06:00Exactly - what is it about "thinking like a l...Exactly - what is it about "thinking like a lawyer" that requires 3 years of extra training? Doesn't a philosophy major have the exact same skepticism and need for rational proof? Couldn't you teach legal procedure, theory, and writing as upper-level courses in a good philosophy/political science/law department?<br /><br />Accounting is just as vital as a profession as law and you can sit for the CPA exam and become licensed with far less training than 7-8 years. The current system is nothing more than protectionist BS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-80078173263211776302013-03-20T11:25:20.047-06:002013-03-20T11:25:20.047-06:00I think that is a deceptively brilliant point: if ...I think that is a deceptively brilliant point: if hanging out a shingle really works, why have 99% of lawprofs never tried it? If it works so well, why is post-law school unemployment at 50+%? <br /><br />I learned nothing about my state law in law school, just federal MBE-type of case law. My experience, cutting my teeth as a solo criminal lawyer is tough without a supervisor, mentor, or accessible court info about proper procedure. If law school helped with this void in my knowledge, it would have helped me blunder less blindly, but I'd still be a struggling solo in a glutted market.<br /><br />Law schools are doublimg down anyway. In my upcoming post, I talk about Yale's first class of Law Ph.Ds! Oh, 10,500 people applied for five spots!!! They want to feed these people into the already harsh applicant pool of federal clerkships and, you guessed it, new law professor jobs.Adam Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12458070600725040309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-44580878247877486512013-03-20T11:00:22.673-06:002013-03-20T11:00:22.673-06:00There is no point in law school other than it bein...There is no point in law school other than it being a hoop to jump through on the way to practicing (and learning) law in a law office.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-70601297559790903422013-03-20T09:14:41.495-06:002013-03-20T09:14:41.495-06:00You hit the nail on the head, Nandster. "Ther...You hit the nail on the head, Nandster. "There aren't enough jobs."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-5649386503026571682013-03-20T08:48:51.134-06:002013-03-20T08:48:51.134-06:00On February 17, 2012, Paul Campos wrote a brillian...On February 17, 2012, Paul Campos wrote a brilliant entry entitled "The message." Look at the following excerpt:<br /><br />http://insidethelawschoolscam.blogspot.com/2012/02/message.html<br /><br />"Let us do a little exercise.<br /><br />Contrary to the disturbing things you may have read in the New York Times, legal education is actually changing in all sorts of wonderful ways, which are making our students far more practice-ready upon graduation.<br /><br />There aren't enough jobs.<br /><br />Contrary to the disturbing things etc., legal scholarship has entered a golden age, and is producing all sorts of wonderful insights regarding how to make The Best Legal System in the World even better.<br /><br />There aren't enough jobs."<br /><br />Middling commodes like to puff out their chests, and claim that they are producing "practice ready" lawyers. The big-ass obstacle is the lack of attorney jobs for freshly-minted JDs. There are tons of graduates - armed with clinic experience, moot/fake court, trial advocacy, pre-trial ad, etc. - who now work in non-law positions. <br /><br />Drafting, researching and arguing motions in limine does not really help you in most jobs. Neither does conducting client interviews, or talking to witnesses in criminal cases. ABA-accredited trash pits will continue to bill these programs as transformational. However, there are nowhere near enough jobs to justify these projects.<br /><br />If any of your current or former "law professors" tells you that you can go hang out a shingle, immediately ask him "Why don't you do that, if it is such good advice? Have you ever set up shop by yourself?"Nandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06423524039657355134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-83966999878676813522013-03-20T07:19:50.815-06:002013-03-20T07:19:50.815-06:00You may have hit on a good point Preston. When sch...You may have hit on a good point Preston. When schools teach skills that are best learned on the job, they are essentially admitting that the schools are themselves useless.<br /><br />Which they are already, but still.<br /><br />Law should be an undergraduate degree. End of story. Book closed. Lights off and go to sleep. No, really go to fucking sleep, it's almost ten o'clock and your mother and I want to bang. Shut the hell up. Jeez, why did I have kids? (Yes, the story is that ended. Basic legal education has no place at the graduate level.)<br /><br />And when the obvious change (like close half the law schools, or make law schools just undergrad departments, simple stuff like that) is just so easy to do, but so difficult at the same time, it's depressing.<br /><br />I would love to wake up tomorrow and see the system changed. But I will wake up in ten years and I bet we are still having this debate, all because of the greed of law professors and the ABA.<br /><br />Just plain old greed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com