tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post7736513644089023216..comments2024-03-28T10:56:31.720-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: (Updated) Breaking News: Indiana Tech Law School "Fails in First Bid for Accreditation."Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-34197897564210673152015-06-08T08:53:13.974-06:002015-06-08T08:53:13.974-06:00Valpo is in the Chicago metro area, says someone n...Valpo is in the Chicago metro area, says someone not from Valpo. I'm sure the five (5) law schools actually in the Chicago metro area find this statement amusing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-12857852381765936492015-05-05T16:50:38.148-06:002015-05-05T16:50:38.148-06:00The committee only gets to recommend. The commiss...The committee only gets to recommend. The commission (or whatever the body is called that makes the actual decision) doesn't always do what the committee recommends, so technically he is right. He hasn't gotten a final decision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-17963902092925771882015-05-05T11:55:28.137-06:002015-05-05T11:55:28.137-06:00He has to spin it as best he can. If not, how do y...He has to spin it as best he can. If not, how do you convince students not to try and transfer now or new students to show up in the Fall?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-42545438259541988962015-05-05T06:37:10.283-06:002015-05-05T06:37:10.283-06:00The update appended to the article points to an ar...The update appended to the article points to an article by a journalist named Wiehe who quotes Cercone of Indiana Tech as saying that Indiana Tech had not received a definitive statement on its initial bid for accreditation.<br /><br />Bullshit. Cercone knows damn well that Indiana Tech has been denied accreditation. Whether he has received a statement to that effect in black and white or not is beside the point. He is misleading the students (loan conduits).<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-41899137712965746612015-05-04T21:02:38.023-06:002015-05-04T21:02:38.023-06:00Old Guy, such a vile comment, yet so delicious to ...Old Guy, such a vile comment, yet so delicious to read.<br /><br />Keep 'em coming!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-6340848128754709932015-05-04T19:19:07.787-06:002015-05-04T19:19:07.787-06:00Oh, yes, the Oath of Professionalism™. How could I...Oh, yes, the Oath of Professionalism™. How could I forget? Here it is:<br /><br />http://outsidethelawschoolscam.blogspot.ca/2013/10/oathiness-of-professionalism-at-indiana.html<br /><br />We the Charter Class of Indiana Tech Law School<br />To the Best of Our Ability Pledge That<br />We Will Live Our Lives In a Manner That Will Inspire Respect and Good Faith in<br />The Legal System.<br />We Will Set an Example for Society by Respecting the Law and the Profession<br />And We will be an Example for Our Colleagues and the Legal Profession<br />By Treating All Individuals With Honor and Integrity.<br />We Will Conduct Ourselves in A Respectful and Trusting Manner<br />Both Professionally and Personally<br />And do Nothing to Bring Disrepute to the Profession.<br />We Shall Put Forth an Effort to Promote Civility<br />Among Those In the Legal Profession<br />By Governing Our Own Actions and Inspiring Our Colleagues to do the Same.<br />We Will Represent Our Clients in a Knowledgeable, Competent, and Prepared<br />Manner<br />By Being Dedicated and by Providing Clear and Regular Communication.<br />As Indiana Tech Law Students, We Take Pride in Our Profession and Our Institution.<br />We Shall Support and Have Compassion for Our Fellow Classmates, Administrators, and Faculty<br />While Respecting Boundaries and Adhering to the Strict Ethics of Student Life.<br />We Take This Oath Not Only For Ourselves But Also as an Example for Those Who Will Follow.<br /><br />Far too many capital letters for a place whose dean was once dougie fresh pond scum.<br /><br />Yes, they vowed to support the administrators and the faculty. At least that promise cannot be enforced against them.<br /><br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-73430901152224189822015-05-04T17:41:39.094-06:002015-05-04T17:41:39.094-06:00Those lapel pins are merely symbols. They represen...Those lapel pins are merely symbols. They represent the Oath of Professionalism, which forbids any criticism of law professors. Good luck enforcing that one after the first and last graduating class reports 10% legal employment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-64933776707406215902015-05-04T17:13:39.355-06:002015-05-04T17:13:39.355-06:00They should carefully preserve those lapel pins, w...They should carefully preserve those lapel pins, which will soon become collectors' items. In fact, I wouldn't mind laying my hands on one. What better way to start the collection of the Museum of Educational Scams?<br /><br />I don't have the legs for an evening gown, but that wouldn't matter if they were hidden under waders.<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-9590727791881743412015-05-04T17:08:56.160-06:002015-05-04T17:08:56.160-06:00And of course they disregard the salary, if any, t...And of course they disregard the salary, if any, that those "jobs" pay. They count a "professional" job paying $10 or $15 an hour, or even nothing at all—or even a negative salary (we've seen a few "jobs" that actually required payment from the "employee").<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-12109626228743749542015-05-04T16:24:44.972-06:002015-05-04T16:24:44.972-06:00Wear red evening gowns with Marilyn Monroe wigs, w...Wear red evening gowns with Marilyn Monroe wigs, with hip waders and Viking helmets, because that makes as much sense as starting ITLS in the friggin' first place!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-30427255503703698742015-05-04T14:00:25.757-06:002015-05-04T14:00:25.757-06:00Don't forget those nifty lapel pins they got a...Don't forget those nifty lapel pins they got after their "PR" course!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-8132297741523833242015-05-04T13:42:06.487-06:002015-05-04T13:42:06.487-06:00To get to that 91.7% they had to exclude from the ...To get to that 91.7% they had to exclude from the denominator not only the supposed non-seeking but also those who were of "unknown" status. (Tell me again why you get to assume the best-case scenario?)<br /><br />In addition, to get to that 91.7% number they had to add in all the short-term and part-time "professional" jobs, including school-funded, which accounted for more than half of the ST/PT stuff. <br /><br />The ST/PT stuff together makes up over 21% of the cohort supposedly making up the "Professional Rate" job findings.<br /><br />Let's be real. Denver's 2014 class found FT-LT-JD required jobs at a rate of 54%. Notably, of those, 1/4 are in "firms" of 2-10 lawyers. I'm sure many of those really are real small firms offering employment. But I'm also guessing many are not.Imagining The Open Toadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-82731427011477148732015-05-04T09:09:25.344-06:002015-05-04T09:09:25.344-06:00I'm a TAMU alumnus, and I am said and dismayed...I'm a TAMU alumnus, and I am said and dismayed that Texas A&M decided to get in on the lol skool bandwagon. With the current state of the market, why would you throw your fellow aggies to the gristmill like that? Accredited or not, Wesleyan wasn't exactly tearing up the market, with all the other options out there in Texas. It's time to consolidate, not expand. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-18870265762939470102015-05-04T07:10:27.615-06:002015-05-04T07:10:27.615-06:00Shall we crash the graduation ceremony for the fir...Shall we crash the graduation ceremony for the first—and possibly last—(cl)ass to get degrees from this toilet? Two dozen people ("mostly fools", to quote Carlyle), resplendent in their orange-yellow robes, strut up to the acting dean (or receiver) to collect their diplomas. Quite a spectacle, I'm sure. Maybe we should dress as centurions.<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-68079033361158705662015-05-04T07:03:07.039-06:002015-05-04T07:03:07.039-06:00What sort of cUNT would go to a law school with a ...What sort of cUNT would go to a law school with a name like UNT?<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-36703175502789934322015-05-03T23:25:31.371-06:002015-05-03T23:25:31.371-06:00Texas A&M is going to crush UNT in the DFW mar...Texas A&M is going to crush UNT in the DFW market. At least they had enough sense to buy an existing and accredited law school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-45254634884812449442015-05-03T23:13:14.983-06:002015-05-03T23:13:14.983-06:00Indiana Tech law school is almost certain to go un...Indiana Tech law school is almost certain to go under. Wrong time, wrong place, wrong people, outrageously stupid in every way. But I'll be honest with you guys: I'm gonna miss lovable scoundrels like Peter Alexander, Adam Lamparello, and dre cummings. <br /><br />There will never be another Indy Tech. Enjoy it while you can. And then when it's gone, breathe a huge sigh of relief.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-16363818755733686032015-05-03T23:11:22.177-06:002015-05-03T23:11:22.177-06:00the worst part is that the median age here is 31 f...the worst part is that the median age here is 31 from what i remember. they are fucked and probably take another 10 years to recover.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-43318882024500095842015-05-03T23:07:19.581-06:002015-05-03T23:07:19.581-06:00"Students and faculty at Indiana Tech Law Sch..."Students and faculty at Indiana Tech Law School are reeling from the news that the school received a recommendation against accreditation by the American Bar Association."<br /><br />Reeling, huh? Those students should've did some common-sense research before they matriculated into this shithole. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-14941203880635193402015-05-03T21:13:48.479-06:002015-05-03T21:13:48.479-06:00Apparently Alexander was cashiered in about two se...Apparently Alexander was cashiered in about two seconds. The announcement said that he had tendered a "resignation" effective immediately.<br /><br />Well, he might just feel a bit of rancor over the circumstances of his departure. And that rancor might just manifest itself as an ill disposition towards the law skule where he had once worked. And if he happened to be on the committee that examined Indiana Tech's application for accreditation…<br /><br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-84345167087232778382015-05-03T20:15:13.657-06:002015-05-03T20:15:13.657-06:00Look at his eyebrows while he is saying all that. ...Look at his eyebrows while he is saying all that. Aggressively arched eyebrows can be a sign of lying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-18291036359623197452015-05-03T19:54:43.715-06:002015-05-03T19:54:43.715-06:00I hope the folks at the University of North Texas ...I hope the folks at the University of North Texas are paying attention.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-42049652835976452912015-05-03T17:43:09.156-06:002015-05-03T17:43:09.156-06:00It looks like the recent news was actually disclos...It looks like the recent news was actually disclosure that a negative report will be issued soon. I'd love to read that report.<br /><br />Also, I wonder if Peter Alexander was one of the ABA examiners. That would be delicious. A scammer working the system to keep future students from being scammed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-4040342107648091262015-05-03T13:51:26.281-06:002015-05-03T13:51:26.281-06:00So accreditation, according to Dougie Fresh Pond S...So accreditation, according to Dougie Fresh Pond Scum, is just a matter of checking administrative boxes. Any old toilet could get it.<br /><br />Except that one toilet did not.<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-79201931513728675002015-05-03T12:21:45.175-06:002015-05-03T12:21:45.175-06:00Hmmm. If a prospective student in 2013 had listen...Hmmm. If a prospective student in 2013 had listened to Indiana Tech Vice Dean andre douglas pond cummings, he or she might have formed the impression that accreditation was not something to worry about. <br /><br />“If I were a prospective law student, knowing that the Indiana Tech Law School is brand new. . . not yet accredited, I would encourage that student to think about these things in, you know, considering coming and being a part of a new unaccredited institution. First, we are going to work day and night to ensure that we gain ABA accreditation. Simply stated, the ABA has hundreds of rules. If you meet them, they will accredit you. Our faculty will work tirelessly to ensure that we meet each of the rules and regulations to be accredited. So I have no doubt that we will do everything necessary to clear that hurdle. “ <br /><br /> --andre douglas pond cummings, March 14, 2013. (video link, at 5:03-5:53)<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEP3TOC02_Qdybbuk123https://www.blogger.com/profile/08142974443119061724noreply@blogger.com