tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post7607116310989910186..comments2024-03-28T10:56:31.720-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: JD Advantage, Part IX : Bulls**t Jobs EditionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-43403821092152809372018-05-29T06:34:24.245-06:002018-05-29T06:34:24.245-06:00Off topic: Our old friend Dean Nicholas Allard was...Off topic: Our old friend Dean Nicholas Allard was abruptly shit-canned by Brooklyn Law School on the Friday before Memorial Day weekend. According to the New York Law Journal, Allard, who is in China, was "surprised" by the move. Brooklyn Law School has not given a reason for firing Allard's fat ass, but the Law Journal noted that Moody's downgraded the school last month from stable to negative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-48343657892228220382018-05-26T15:01:31.356-06:002018-05-26T15:01:31.356-06:00Ok, it's not just law school that's a rack...Ok, it's not just law school that's a racket-there's a good argument that all higher ed is...<br />Guy makes $225,000/year as orthodontist, but "the debt is unrelenting"<br />http://www.newser.com/story/259768/how-one-man-racked-up-1m-in-student-debt.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_topAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-21945253953904380502018-05-24T16:12:00.237-06:002018-05-24T16:12:00.237-06:00But...but... it would free them from drudgery and ...But...but... it would free them from drudgery and let them become ARTISTS! Why do you hate culture???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-75271792880258125912018-05-24T12:04:45.648-06:002018-05-24T12:04:45.648-06:00"Regardless, I think the real issue isn't..."Regardless, I think the real issue isn't that telemarketers and compliance officers are worthless per se, they are NOT. The issue is that there are too many of them, thereby making their work redundant and officious...The caution for people considering law school is that if they do want a meaningful job one day, maybe law school is not the way to go. So this is a secondary consideration for them, the primary concern being the tremendous expense of law school. "<br /><br />Spot on. Like lawyers, you need some...just not as many as the Cartel likes to say are needed.dupednontraditionalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170022654810216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-66414718765933750212018-05-24T11:48:28.554-06:002018-05-24T11:48:28.554-06:00I’ve been out of law school for over 10 years. I d...I’ve been out of law school for over 10 years. I don’t know any lemmings or have much insight into the lemmings that still go to law school. But in the last 6 months I’ve heard a few anecdotes from other docs. A physician recently told me their relative just graduated from law school last year. This person worked in finance and dealt with a lot of regulatory issues. So their employer let them take three years off to go to law school and return to the finance job. This person is not an attorney for the company. They are doing the same job. The relative said many classmates struggled to find jobs and didn’t realize that the job numbers are inflated by graduates with connections or returning to previous jobs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-54273919993314264882018-05-24T09:44:54.247-06:002018-05-24T09:44:54.247-06:00Note that the economist (David Graber) who has thi...Note that the economist (David Graber) who has this theory of "bulls**t jobs" is advocating for the basic universal income (aka.. the negative income tax). <br /><br />Thus, it's no surprise that he characterizes work in this way and subsequently advocates for people to sit on their ass instead. You can see this same attitude in that now infamous interview with Nancy Pelosi, who flippantly stated that with a basic income one can catch-up on hobbies that they always wanted to try, like painting. No thought given to how we'd actually pay for this universal income, but I digress. <br /><br />Regardless, I think the real issue isn't that telemarketers and compliance officers are worthless per se, they are NOT. The issue is that there are too many of them, thereby making their work redundant and officious. For example, if a hospital only had one or two compliance officers (rather than a whole department of them), there would be a whole other attitude towards their work.<br /><br />Also, why do we assume that all telemarketers and compliance officers feel this way? For many, they're perfectly happy doing what they do (and could care less if it is buls**t) so long as they get a paycheck.<br /><br />The caution for people considering law school is that if they do want a meaningful job one day, maybe law school is not the way to go. So this is a secondary consideration for them, the primary concern being the tremendous expense of law school. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-42129669532717619122018-05-24T07:41:39.263-06:002018-05-24T07:41:39.263-06:00It seems to me that maybe 20% of the current law s...It seems to me that maybe 20% of the current law school classes come from the "right" backgrounds and have the "right" connections...so the debt won't be a burden, they will get a "real" lawyer job, etc. Or, they really are a talented student with an aptitude for law, and the scholarships, grants, and school connections will be the nudge they need to get into the field and have a legitimate career.<br /><br />Then there is the remaining 80%, forced to pay off huge loans irrespective of background, chasing dwindling dollars, and working for free for an opportunity that was, frankly, missed and went to the above-mentioned students via school connections prior to graduation. <br /><br />There is a need for new lawyers. Just not at 40,000 per year. And the "real," "sustainable" jobs, solo or otherwise, are few and far between.dupednontraditionalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170022654810216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-88365105112399159602018-05-23T22:03:10.543-06:002018-05-23T22:03:10.543-06:00What is hilarious to me about the whole business a...What is hilarious to me about the whole business advantage thing that law schools promote is law school itself is a giant NEGATIVE cost.<br /><br />3+ years lost in the workforce where you could being making $$$.<br /><br />Tuition, living expenses can add up to $200-250K for the overwhelming <br />majority of schools. Unless your mom and dad are loaded and this doesn't matter, good luck paying those loans off. <br /><br />Forget regional schools with good deals like UF/FSU. This is not good business. This is stupid. <br /><br />And the thing is the law degree is a scarlet degree. The general public hates lawyers. Why? Lawyers have a tenancy to ask why, why, why? And lawyers sue over stupid stuff. <br /><br />I didn't learn a single thing from law school my first year except I remember one funny anecdote. My property professor went to Colombia law and was actually a CLASSMATE of Caroline Kennedy.... All this aside, he said one time when he told his undergraduate professor he was going to law school, his professor told him, "Don't go to law school. All you do is doubt everything." <br /><br />Thinking like a lawyer means doubting everything and trying to find the worst possible outcome. This is what 3 years of law school tries to make you do. <br /><br />Businesses aren't going to hire failed lawyers unless they are from T-14 and then again this is HYS because HYS is HYS. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-43086973614189697962018-05-23T18:43:03.274-06:002018-05-23T18:43:03.274-06:00No question that the whole JD Advantage business i...No question that the whole JD Advantage business is a joke-but if you really want to burn, take a look at what constitute-at least technically-"real" law jobs. Scan the local craigslist for law jobs...which pay $20/hour-for a licensed attorney-who is also required to have a cellphone and "reliable transportation"...or law firms seeking law students or recent grads to work for free as interns...or your local US Attorney's Office seeking applicants for positions require bar membership...but the pay is exactly zero-that's right, you promise to stay for one year and agree to work for free.<br />So yeah, JD Advantage is a joke-but so are many "real" law jobs. It's almost unbelievable. The entire profession is a racket.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-33988175822675959912018-05-22T08:43:48.588-06:002018-05-22T08:43:48.588-06:00With combined debt of over $300k from undergrad an...With combined debt of over $300k from undergrad and law school (that's 1/3rd of a million dollars) these Lemmings are completely screwed before they even reach the starting blocks.<br /><br />And, we'll still hear some Boomer talking out their ass about how today's generation (are you talking 'bout it?) has it easy..<br /><br />The Good Old Days are right around the corner again for the LS Cartel. Trump is eliminating PSLF.<br /><br />ALL.IS.WELL.<br /><br />This is what happens to Unconnecteds, precisely.<br /><br />Other kids are groomed from Day 1 and will win the game almost by default barring some near-impossible / catastrophic fuck-up.<br /><br />The Lemmings will start with $300-$350 grand in non-dischargeable student loan debt which in 10 years will be tripled. Hence, the $1m Student Loan Debtor.<br /><br />You know they will never pay the $300 grand off, let alone ever be out of debt for the rest of their lives.<br /><br />It will happen. And it's happening now.<br /><br />The Prole Lemmings have only themselves and their equally idiot parents to blame.<br /><br />Both sets heavily drank the Kool-Aid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-59317924495705551712018-05-21T22:12:32.735-06:002018-05-21T22:12:32.735-06:00This sums up 90% of law students, and 100% of law ...This sums up 90% of law students, and 100% of law students at the TTTs: "taking the default choice of so many directionless folk: law school."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-57214559542992504822018-05-21T10:26:31.042-06:002018-05-21T10:26:31.042-06:00How about we call it "malemployment" ins...How about we call it "malemployment" instead of "bulls**t jobs" -- that sounds more scientific.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com