tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post578903020719729646..comments2024-03-28T07:16:35.912-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: Odd Variations in LSAC ChartsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-53496140543916961182015-01-13T14:31:56.262-07:002015-01-13T14:31:56.262-07:00Yes, without Brian Leiter's scholarship, the w...Yes, without Brian Leiter's scholarship, the world would descend into chaos. On the other hand, the world is already in terrible shape, and Leiter relishes his daily condemnations of everything and everyone. And on the third hand (we're in mutant territory by now) Leiter is like a bull in a china shop, creating his won chaos wherever he goes.<br /><br />I'm not sure if the world can afford Brian Leiter's "scholarship." And no one should ever go into debt to pay for his decadent, disorderly, destructive life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-44173129520681070502015-01-13T14:18:35.679-07:002015-01-13T14:18:35.679-07:00Well, the 2015 figures are mostly projections, so ...Well, the 2015 figures are mostly projections, so it's a bit more uncertain than that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-24275539927216009962015-01-11T21:52:12.839-07:002015-01-11T21:52:12.839-07:00Why do people think matriculant and/or applicant c...Why do people think matriculant and/or applicant counts are bottoming out? Looks like the decline has been steady and linear these past two years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-6173216987555362962015-01-10T23:19:17.993-07:002015-01-10T23:19:17.993-07:00Already a number of law skules practice what amoun...Already a number of law skules practice what amounts to open admissions. New England Law School (the one with the pretentious vertical bar in its name) admits 89% of its generally mediocre applicant pool. Some law skules even award "scholarships" on the basis of LSAT scores well below the fiftieth percentile.<br /><br />I exaggerate only slightly when I say that the only criterion for admission at many law skules is the ability to pay, usually with student loans that are in effect granted by the admissions office.<br /><br />Old Guy<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-66247932632237908262015-01-10T23:01:20.424-07:002015-01-10T23:01:20.424-07:00Hmm, yes, law professors seem to suddenly spend an...Hmm, yes, law professors seem to suddenly spend an inordinate amount of time closely watching and measuring the decline of their industry. Statisticians everywhere. A plague of experts on your house. <br /><br />Those public monies that flow to the professoriate, they tell us, for the hollowed purpose of carrying on that noble western tradition of scholarship (without which we'd descend into chaos today) now flow to finance blog posts, prognostication, monitoring the internet for scurrilous libels of the unwashed masses. Telling. <br /><br />The renaissance is just around the corner! Demand, demand for lawyers as far as the eye can see! Consider yourselves refuted! If Diamond, et al are so confident, and their critics so laughably wrong, why are the shouting? Why all the rebutting? Why the blog posts? Why waste one's time?<br /><br />Get back to the legal scholarship, boys, where you're so badly needed. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-47939894544950587052015-01-10T10:02:49.868-07:002015-01-10T10:02:49.868-07:00So December 2014 is up from December 2013, but (Oc...So December 2014 is up from December 2013, but (Oct+Dec) 2014 is still down from the previous year. That's why an honest graph still shows such a steady decline in applicants. Am I right about that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-16472301192621024222015-01-10T09:56:45.394-07:002015-01-10T09:56:45.394-07:00What I take away from this story is that an honest...What I take away from this story is that an honest graph reveals the law school predators to be suffering a serious shortage of prey. Starting in the spring of 2012, and then throughout the Fall 2013 admissions cycle, the bottom fell out of the market for faux-prestigious law degrees. <br /><br />I'm quite happy that numbers are continuing to drop. Even though the declines are easily predictable and less dramatic, they may be enough to convince even the worst scammers that the glory days are never coming back. From now on, outside the top 25 or so law schools, there will be no easy money, no cushy administrative jobs, and very few hires on the academic track. The pyramid scheme in which elite schools attract the smartest students by promising them academic careers at lesser schools appears to be tumbling down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-86768119251826230742015-01-09T11:41:12.599-07:002015-01-09T11:41:12.599-07:00The intro to the charts states that applications/a...The intro to the charts states that applications/applicants are down. The charts are both screwy: look at the applications one. It's got a bottom y axis at -100,000. Fix it at 0, guys. <br /><br />I also think the Dec. LSATs are up because last year there was such bad weather that a lot people were deterred. That pushed people to take the test in Feb. '14 (causing it to go up yoy) and made Dec. 14 look better yoy. <br /><br />We're getting close to bottoming out. But even when we do, we'll still have 2 years of lower incoming classes relative to graduating classes. Plenty of room to snuff out some horrible schools. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-50891793154972992312015-01-09T11:23:52.908-07:002015-01-09T11:23:52.908-07:00Commenters over at TFL noticed the poor charting a...Commenters over at TFL noticed the poor charting as well. <br /><br />Then a commenter chimed in with "But-But-But-December-LSAT-takers-are-up-for-the-first-time-in-17-test-administrations!!!"<br /><br />To which comment someone explained, "December 2013 had significant cancellations due to weather (especially in the northeast)... Assuming that 250 takers scheduled for December 2013 were given a deferment until the February 2014 administration, that would conform to... 18th consecutive....".<br /><br />http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2015/01/lsac-data-and-predicting-number-of-applicants-for-fall-2015-part-3.html#commentsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-70202678953404029062015-01-09T10:14:22.971-07:002015-01-09T10:14:22.971-07:00Whoops, either that or I went fishing recently. T...Whoops, either that or I went fishing recently. Thanks for reading!dupednontraditionalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170022654810216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-37124742285984723932015-01-09T08:12:42.364-07:002015-01-09T08:12:42.364-07:00Has anyone ever noticed that when LSAC or a law sc...Has anyone ever noticed that when LSAC or a law school makes a "mistake" in reporting, it always covers up how bad things really are? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-87975836149962915642015-01-09T07:41:33.762-07:002015-01-09T07:41:33.762-07:00Yes, Matt Leichter is a hero. It took a number of ...Yes, Matt Leichter is a hero. It took a number of dedicated people to build enough infrastructure to undermine the scam.<br /><br />I always like to see statistics presented properly. People like Steve Diamond and Brian Leiter seem compelled to yank statistics out of their natural context, mostly because context is the enemy of their own shameful, self-serving, ad-hoc arguments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-33217385774130192342015-01-09T07:26:04.213-07:002015-01-09T07:26:04.213-07:00"with baited breath"
The word you want ..."with baited breath"<br /><br />The word you want there is "bated" (as in, your breath has been abated). The expression is unrelated to bait (which would be kind of gross).<br /><br />Just sayin'. Love your work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com