tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post5281661226036655916..comments2024-03-18T11:05:17.083-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: So you want to be a K-JD? Not so fastUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-78437287936408932702018-07-17T04:23:32.385-06:002018-07-17T04:23:32.385-06:00As soon as I observed this website I went on reddi...As soon as I observed this website I went on reddit to share some of the love with them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-85655629031637273282013-05-28T10:30:45.904-06:002013-05-28T10:30:45.904-06:00Exactly. That is easily the dumbest sentenance in...Exactly. That is easily the dumbest sentenance in the entire article. I had to quit my full time consulting job to study for the LSAT. Most people can't do 40-50 hrs of a full time job + 30 hours of LSAT prep a week. The smartest way to go about it is to take the LSAT right after undergrad is over after having studied for it full time 6 months AND THEN get a full time job for a year before beginning one's JD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-87203924523650125642013-03-29T20:51:18.149-06:002013-03-29T20:51:18.149-06:00Absolutely correct. There is a great deal of age d...Absolutely correct. There is a great deal of age discrimination in legal hiring. It should be one of those decision points all prospective law students should consider: will I be over 30 when I graduate? If the answer is yes and you don't have an obvious and assured way to get a job, do not go to law school. Simple as that. I wish this aspect of the law school scam were better publicized.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-41448520027278540962013-03-29T12:49:02.356-06:002013-03-29T12:49:02.356-06:00Why do you think that those working full-time find...Why do you think that those working full-time find it easier to do 30 hours a week of studying than a college student? That's a really odd assertion that sounds, frankly, like whining about how those who work for a living have it easier than college students, and that if only you took time off from college to kick back with a real job, you'd have a more awesomer LSAT scoreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-84568200200516619192013-03-28T18:14:09.390-06:002013-03-28T18:14:09.390-06:00Antonio is withholding his custom.
Antonio is withholding his custom.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-39685471125575129282013-03-28T17:55:02.839-06:002013-03-28T17:55:02.839-06:00@1:30 PM
Keep up the good work Tony.@1:30 PM<br /><br />Keep up the good work Tony.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-69781186774374689202013-03-28T14:30:30.748-06:002013-03-28T14:30:30.748-06:00First commenter here. I still disagree. Yes, a fe...First commenter here. I still disagree. Yes, a few LSAT points can make the difference between T14 and T50, but does that matter when the outcome is 30 years of shit no matter what?<br /><br />The discussion should NEVER be about how to get into a better school, at least not on this blog. The discussion should be about getting people to avoid the scam altogether.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-41277258325710892672013-03-28T13:52:53.219-06:002013-03-28T13:52:53.219-06:00Let's not forget the ridiculous game being pla...Let's not forget the ridiculous game being played with the LSAT score, which is directly related to the 'rankings' part of the scam. The fact that the score can be the difference between a "scholarship" (primary price manipulation tool)and sticker is a joke. If there were no rankings, then there would be far fewer 'scholarships', just as if there were no easy loans there would be far fewer schools and students.<br /><br />on a another note, the fact that being able to solve one more 'logic game' than your neighbor means more to admission than earning a high GPA over the course of four years is another element of the amazing stupidity in this racket. Can anyone tell me how a high LSAT transfers to any level of potential success or real intelligence in school or as a working professional?<br /><br />Similarly there are a million PhD's in the Education sector, and that has to be the most screwed up industry in the country, except when it comes to fleecing the public. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-46764225399305782412013-03-28T12:25:44.555-06:002013-03-28T12:25:44.555-06:00Certainly true. The LSAT is apparently all that m...Certainly true. The LSAT is apparently all that matters when it comes to minimizing everybody's costs. Had I known how de-valued a JD actually was, I would have spent years prepping for the LSAT.<br /><br />Scratch that. I would have avoided law school. But, the LSAT is critical to getting out of law school as unscathed as possible.dupednontraditionalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170022654810216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-73701041081446055072013-03-28T12:11:36.961-06:002013-03-28T12:11:36.961-06:00A lot of truth to this.
The K-Jder has no real wo...A lot of truth to this.<br /><br />The K-Jder has no real work experience, no clue what is BS or not, and likely lacks the assertiveness or confidence of someone who's worked full-time.<br /><br />So the partners at the firm can more easily bully someone who is 25 and doe-eyed ("this is paying your dues") than someone who is 32 and knows better ("no, I am not working at 6:30 on a Saturday")Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-28362855587239707742013-03-28T11:12:56.858-06:002013-03-28T11:12:56.858-06:00I should've been more clear: it's a sympto...I should've been more clear: it's a symptom of the law school "scam" that people don't spend more time on the LSAT. I thought my tongue-in-cheek paragraph would've made it more clear:<br /><br />"After all, lawyers make good money, and even if you are not making six figures, many mid-to-high five-figures legal jobs were there. Law schools outside the level of Harvard still will adequately prepare you for the practice of law, and because all law schools teach the same things, a retake isn't necessary."Antirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13353794908230833127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-55821141738539341522013-03-28T10:58:00.851-06:002013-03-28T10:58:00.851-06:00My main point was that because the LSAT is more im...My main point was that because the LSAT is more important than four plus years of undergrad grades and extra curricula, if someone is truly serious about law school they will take the LSAT seriously and thus, not be a K-JD.<br /><br />Antirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13353794908230833127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-86381440287124853682013-03-28T10:03:11.825-06:002013-03-28T10:03:11.825-06:00I did not take the K-JD route but I would agree wi...I did not take the K-JD route but I would agree with this post. I think that the underlying point is that most K-JD think that law school is itself a prestigious step in the right direction and that a few points on the LSAT is not so life shattering. They do not realize that a few points on the test can be the difference between T14 or not T14 or the difference between a huge scholarship and sticker. In other words, a few points can make the difference when it comes to unemployment and lifelong debt.Adam Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12458070600725040309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-64158278634704995262013-03-28T09:27:34.254-06:002013-03-28T09:27:34.254-06:00Actually, those who have essentially sat in a clas...Actually, those who have essentially sat in a classroom for 20-21 straight years might be better off than their non-traditional counterparts, in this field. Law firms - especially the fancier ones - typically avoid hiring summer associates or interns who are 30 years or older. Such people are not as easy to manipulate. <br /><br />The younger law students generally do not have much work experience, other than meaningless restaurant jobs. These boys and girls eagerly buy into "the law." They want to impress their superiors, and they often lack the backbone to stand up for themselves - if they are bullied or demeaned by a boss. <br /><br />Non-trad students have their own views on the workplace. Many are willing to stand up for themselves, since they usually have a lower tolerance for BS. I have also seen non-trads who performed strong academically be passed over for summer positions. What a great "profession," huh?!?!Nandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06423524039657355134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-88477066625184925822013-03-28T09:20:21.695-06:002013-03-28T09:20:21.695-06:00I agree. My LSAT was "good enough", but...I agree. My LSAT was "good enough", but I didn't really care too much becuase I was looking at the JD as a valuable credential. I was trying to enhance my career, not get into mega-white-shoe law firm.<br /><br />Hoo boy, did I learn a terrible lesson. The truth is that a JD is not "valuable" and the job market is full of pitfalls, whether you are "successful" or "not successful" as an attorney. <br /><br />Money and the right connections will cover a multitude of LSAT "sins". dupednontraditionalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170022654810216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-66044887404432292432013-03-28T08:29:27.361-06:002013-03-28T08:29:27.361-06:00I'm going to disagree with this - kind of. Yo...I'm going to disagree with this - kind of. You're right. I don't dispute what you say at all. I just think that it's not a failure to prepare for the LSAT and law school that is the problem. It's a failure to look beyond that and research legal careers that is the problem. <br /><br />You can prep for the LSAT and research law schools until the cows come home, but that tells you nothing. Three years of law school is great, but it's the thirty years of career thereafter that we need to focus on. The misery of successful lawyers and the misery of the failures.<br /><br />And that's what K-JDers fail to realize because they just don't know what working in the real world is. They don't connect their JD with the fact that they actually have to get a real job in the real world afterwards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com