tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post3479552563759622496..comments2024-03-28T10:56:31.720-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: The Pied Pipeline of Scamlin.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-4286577520037650162014-10-27T01:00:58.604-06:002014-10-27T01:00:58.604-06:00I tried to look into this in order to find a law s...I tried to look into this in order to find a law school that was admitting to admitting 10% of their class without having taken the LSAT. I was able to find several unaccredited and state accredited places that would let you in without taking the LSAT.<br /><br />I also found the ABA's pdf outlining a bunch of changes they wished to propagate for schools they accredit here --> http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/legal_education_and_admissions_to_the_bar/council_reports_and_resolutions/201403_notice_and_comment.authcheckdam.pdf<br /><br />On pages 4 and 5 the document explains that a school has to use a test to determine law school ability and the test either has to be the LSAT or the law school has to demonstrate that the test is a valid measure of law school ability. They propose the rule change and on page 6 they give actual text.<br />Basically 10% can be admitted without the LSAT; but all students admitted in such a fashion must either be undergrads from the same school or admitted to a J.D. program and some other program at the same time. They must be top 15% on the ACT, SAT, GRE, or GMAT and either top 10% in undergrad or have a GPA of 3.5. Their preliminary explanation says that there should be auditing. I imagine to make sure the law schools aren't ignoring the stipulations and just letting in bums to boost their class sizes by 10 percent.<br /><br />Even with the stipulations though a good scamdean can find a way to run his scam. The bar sounds high but probably is not. People too dumb to be involved in reputable law schools can have 3.5 GPA's in easy majors. And out of the 4 tests (and maybe also including the 7 GRE subject tests) there has to be one a lemming is good at.<br />All a scamdean needs is a bullshit JD/MBA program or a college full of lemmings with easy majors to be attached too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-21613268453399013422014-10-26T20:05:09.954-06:002014-10-26T20:05:09.954-06:00Expect more outreach and events in the future. Th...Expect more outreach and events in the future. This will occur not because of any real plan to reel in these lemmings, but rather as a justification for administrator's jobs in increasingly empty law schools.ConcernTrollnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-32563980067902570262014-10-26T14:35:14.703-06:002014-10-26T14:35:14.703-06:0012:52, exactly. If the average T3 is going to use ...12:52, exactly. If the average T3 is going to use the $160k salaries of the 3 kids in their graduating class that got biglaw jobs to raise their reported median salary, it's only fair that kids who are unemployed count as a salary of $0. Just one more way the scamsters still manipulate their employment numbers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-27300451957233183032014-10-25T22:01:44.940-06:002014-10-25T22:01:44.940-06:00I've got a question about Professor Leiter'...I've got a question about Professor Leiter's culpability in the ongoing scam. It's not just rhetorical, either. I attended a world-class lecture on moral philosophy yesterday. I'm fired up and ready to do some serious reasoning in pursuit of answers.<br /><br />Do you think ignorance or malice best explains Leiter's pugilistic defense of the law school scam? And not him alone, but anyone who attacks decent people for defending the interests of young and gullible students? On the one hand, it would be easy for Leiter, or any other professor, to hide behind the admissions office. "We don't bring in the students, we just teach them. It's their own business if they want to attend law school." And for any professor who's libertarian, that might make some moral sense. Leiter, however, is not a libertarian. Neither are the racial capitalists who dropped into their tenured posts just a bit too effortlessly. Also, such a position would require genuine ignorance of student outcomes. Has Leiter simply shielded himself from that information by relying on dishonest secondary sources? And is there a moral issue involved when he assumes certain facts for debate while maintaining his own ignorance?<br /><br />Or is ignorance a less efficient explanation than malice? Leiter, after all, does enjoy attacking people. His compulsive overuse of the judgmental words he considers devastating borders on the comical at times. He also appears drawn to controversy of any kind. For example, he intrudes himself into arguments within the philosophy community--while not a philosophy professor himself! Surely this is anomalous, a freakish situation that almost appears to have been invented as a thought experiment. That's how important distinctions originate that often lead to deep insights into human thought and action. <br /><br />Countering the theory of inherent malice are some realities of the law school scam. While Leiter may hate anyone who disagrees with him about politics, or philosophy, or his own fantasized version of the legal process, it's hard to believe that he actually hates the students at third-tier law schools enough to wish upon them a lifetime of debt and poverty. His own students do well on the job market, and I think that's a clue. He may be emotionally invested in his own students to such a degree that he cannot conceive that other students exist. If this were his attitude, it could be an extension of his obvious narcissism, but far less harmful. If he actually cares about someone else, that could be the breakthrough he needs to become an authentic moral being.<br /><br />As a tentative conclusion, I would state that malice explains the viciousness of Leiter's attacks on people better than himself, but not the attacks themselves. The victims often appear to be selected at random, or at least for reasons that are so trivial as to be ludicrous. A far better explanation would be ignorance of a sort, created by Leiter himself to continue a series of pleasant emotional states, or at least non-threatening states. This involves considerable denial on his part, in which he conveniently forgets indisputable facts. It also involves careful selection of extremely biased sources. However, it doesn't interfere with his everyday activities at the law school, or with that tiny fraction of his public interactions that are cordial, professional, and rational. So this is ignorance with a twist. It doesn't in any way falsify his intellect or scholarship, but it does exclude him from any reasonable discussion of lower-tier law schools. And if claims against him were limited to the fact that he is extraordinarily sheltered and narrow in his outlook, I'd hope he could forget about it and pop another cheeseburger past his curling lips. And reflect on the magnificent reality that he lives in a diverse and somewhat free society.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-22896101778471565742014-10-25T04:59:39.628-06:002014-10-25T04:59:39.628-06:00Someone gets it.
This post nails the situation. T...Someone gets it.<br /><br />This post nails the situation. The top 1% have gained, gained, gained. Everyone else was a loser.<br /><br />Eh, but take heart kids! There has never been a better time to go to law school and take out $150K in non-dischargeable loans to do it!<br /><br />It's not like you'll be fighting uphill in a sinking overall, and especially legal, economy.<br /><br />Oh...<br /><br />Wait..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-9404727792153468172014-10-25T04:27:53.740-06:002014-10-25T04:27:53.740-06:00I really don't care for the subject matter of ...I really don't care for the subject matter of Maurice's poetry. The thought of obese law professors doing anything sexual just makes me sick. However, law and philosophy tell us that we can learn even from those with whom we disagree. And Maurice's use of verse and imagery to express the absurdity of academic life draws on the highest of human values. This blog is a liberal arts education in itself, at no cost to the reader. <br /><br />Compare that to the outrageous cost of a law degree at Columbia or Chicago, currently running anywhere from 250K to 300K. What's the difference? No profiteering deans, no overpaid professors, and no required textbooks. Just well-informed people telling the truth as they see it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-83043840158934645662014-10-25T01:52:40.346-06:002014-10-25T01:52:40.346-06:00I think there's a real question whether law sc...I think there's a real question whether law schools have to report how many students they admit without LSAT scores. I think they just have to report the actual LSAT scores, mostly medians unless they get audited. It's kind of like saying that well, of course our unemployed students don't have jobs, so how can we report the salaries? It's just another way to institutionalize sampling bias while trying to hide it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-2698144685150101062014-10-24T23:26:43.831-06:002014-10-24T23:26:43.831-06:00You're absolutely right, Old Guy. Even one sch...You're absolutely right, Old Guy. Even one school in the Top 5 was found accepting late applications on the basis of LSAT scores. Apparently they had a median to maintain. In today's environment, that isn't easy even for the best schools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-33913285737365530592014-10-24T23:21:24.503-06:002014-10-24T23:21:24.503-06:00I think history will record that the fabricated ba...I think history will record that the fabricated bar complaint against Dybbuk was the high-water mark of the law school scam. Like the Turks at Vienna, the Germans at Stalingrad, and the Soviets in Afghanistan, a weakened tyranny seriously overextended itself to try to recreate the appearance of power. Given the strategic naivete and miniscule legal skills of Dybbuk's accusers, their defeat was inevitable from the start, yet they felt emboldened for a time by having taken any action at all. <br /><br />As the artificial tide quickly receded, Professor Leiter found himself reduced to threatening hapless philosophy professors in private emails, and then claiming confidentiality for his threats. The rats are scurrying for cover. Things are vastly different now than they were even as recently as June, thanks to the common sense of the Illinois Bar. Additional thanks to Dybbuk for standing firm and continuing to practice law. His accusers may find that strange and repugnant, underpaid and academically irrelevant, but it happens to be the only sound reason for the existence of law schools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-55821659929525283322014-10-24T21:44:02.890-06:002014-10-24T21:44:02.890-06:00Wow, thanks! :)
Even I don't feel good abou...Wow, thanks! :) <br /><br />Even I don't feel good about the future. dybbuk123https://www.blogger.com/profile/08142974443119061724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-49215479236282408422014-10-24T21:11:12.835-06:002014-10-24T21:11:12.835-06:00Hell, even skules in the so-called "Tier 1&qu...Hell, even skules in the so-called "Tier 1" (more than half of which is in the fourth tier by my pragmatic definition) still admit people in July and beyond.<br /><br />Old Guy<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-40703976569873731982014-10-24T15:05:59.579-06:002014-10-24T15:05:59.579-06:00Such a gluttonous genius! For those initiated to N...Such a gluttonous genius! For those initiated to Nietzsche, life is a Dionysian revel in perpetual ecstasy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-83707217699071071802014-10-24T15:00:05.744-06:002014-10-24T15:00:05.744-06:00To answer the question at 10:15: yes, there are st...To answer the question at 10:15: yes, there are state-accredited or unaccredited law schools that don't require the LSAT. A school accredited by the ABA can admit up to 10% of its students without LSAT scores. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-90201545249993263622014-10-24T14:50:53.404-06:002014-10-24T14:50:53.404-06:00Hip Hop Law is mostly a state of state of mind. It...Hip Hop Law is mostly a state of state of mind. It's all about tripping into court with a mountain of evidence against you--and hopping out with a multi-million dollar judgment against the cops.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-31168753330835841772014-10-24T14:39:00.331-06:002014-10-24T14:39:00.331-06:00The Pied Piper
By Maurice Leiter
Doorbell rings...The Pied Piper<br /><br />By Maurice Leiter<br /><br /><br />Doorbell rings.<br />My stomach sings.<br />I lust for my thick crust<br />Hawaiian. (So racist!)<br />Four thousand calories?<br />Yes please!<br />I likes me some pie.<br /><br />Copious stomach stuffed,<br />I lean back and fart.<br />Aaaaaaaah.<br /><br />Now time for crack.<br />Lighter underneath rocks resting in pipe.<br />Inhale deep, hold it . . . hold it . . .<br />Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!<br />Leiter awakes<br />and he be smokin’!<br /><br />The Pied Piper must play.<br />Hand on skin flute, I tickle a tune.<br />Join me, my orchestra of online puppets!<br />Dance with me naked around the room.<br />Glissando, pizza-greased right hand up and down,<br />left hand vibrato on balls.<br />AaAaAaAaAaAaAaAaAaAaH!<br />I crescendo, about to blow<br />my milky melody.<br />Salty ditty spurts up to my titties.<br /><br />Hand still on cock,<br />I look at the clock. Eight thirty in the morning.<br />A productive start to the day, but<br />time for work, no time<br />for an encore.<br />I wipe myself, then<br />head for the Open Road.<br /><br />Faculty office.<br />Leiter underneath rocks of ideas resting<br />behind the glass of the computer monitor. <br />I ignite them.<br />I igLeit them.<br />Take a hit, assistant professor.<br />Trust me, i’ll make you feel like you’ve got tenure.<br />Inhale the intoxicating, toxic fumes,<br />now addicted to the brief high and a<br />life of crime, stealing from students<br />to fund your academic crack lie.<br /><br />Or did I just fart again?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-73719745606898779312014-10-24T14:37:35.991-06:002014-10-24T14:37:35.991-06:00Wasn't the approval you mentioned for a maximu...Wasn't the approval you mentioned for a maximum of 10% admitted without LSAT scores? That's for ABA accredited schools, of course. As far as the other 90% of students go, the law schools are required to ask for LSAT scores, but not to consider them. That's the big loophole. "Holistic admissions" or "opportunity admissions" are far more scary than letting a few stray cats submit GMAT scores.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-91608742156438553112014-10-24T11:15:45.950-06:002014-10-24T11:15:45.950-06:00Question. Does anybody know if there is a law sch...Question. Does anybody know if there is a law school out there that does NOT require the LSAT?<br /><br />I know they got the ABA to approve it, but are any schools actually matriculating students without the LSAT? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-32921840954584365112014-10-24T10:55:56.485-06:002014-10-24T10:55:56.485-06:00They are getting so desperate that you can take th...They are getting so desperate that you can take the June LSAT and the t3/4s will still trip over themselves to admit you to the fall 1L class.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-87114132800895985372014-10-24T05:14:37.489-06:002014-10-24T05:14:37.489-06:00lollolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-31729359535615661442014-10-24T04:36:34.324-06:002014-10-24T04:36:34.324-06:00What about "Lemmy the Law School Lemming"...What about "Lemmy the Law School Lemming"?<br /><br />"Oh, that gullible Lemmy. He'll *fall* for anything!"<br /><br />http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DUVwK0_vLUM/TimfOGoGkjI/AAAAAAAAJ6A/atidGx0jt3w/s1600/lemmings-award.png<br /> OhioDocReviewernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-59140857705571574732014-10-23T21:38:17.737-06:002014-10-23T21:38:17.737-06:00Those are some beautiful numbers. The fraudsters w...Those are some beautiful numbers. The fraudsters were crowing about that tiny little uptick in early 2014, but the overall trend is strongly against them. Cheers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-68240137723038762632014-10-23T21:25:35.943-06:002014-10-23T21:25:35.943-06:00That was another well-conceived and informative po...That was another well-conceived and informative post by Dybbuk. I don't know how he does it. For a practicing attorney, he shows a great deal of curiosity and creativity. And for a public intellectual, he's unusually well-grounded in legal practice and everyday reality.<br /><br />I mean this only as a compliment, not an insult, but Dybbuk would make a great law professor. Given the current realities of legal education, the only problem would be finding a law school worthy of his talents. With good enough student inputs and career networks, some unusually perceptive law school could employ him to advance the opposite of the law school scam, namely law as a noble calling and a rewarding profession.<br /><br />I'm not about to write plays, movies, or other assorted narratives about him, but Dybbuk makes me feel good about the future. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-22740079415838073382014-10-23T20:55:05.233-06:002014-10-23T20:55:05.233-06:00I'd guess that most of Leiter's students d...I'd guess that most of Leiter's students do very well, but he's permanently damaged the reputation of law graduates, like himself, who don't want to be lawyers. He's also permanently damaged the reputation of law professors, like himself, who imagine themselves to be philosophers. And I have no idea how he came to the conclusion that pretending to be a lawyer was an effective way to punish philosophy professors who failed to parrot his own ill-informed opinions.<br /><br />Leiter is a unique psychological artifact, a natural phenomenon that can never be repeated and must be studied on its own terms. Our best opportunity to understand the depths of his soul would be for some very insightful psychologist to devise a very clever variant of the Stanford Prison Experiment. Leiter, of course, would be best equipped to play one of the guards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-74343626122339345042014-10-23T20:28:51.907-06:002014-10-23T20:28:51.907-06:00We could display our own mascot. For example, a do...We could display our own mascot. For example, a dolphin that's $200,000 in debt and can't afford to eat tuna.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-63092448491767269052014-10-23T20:16:10.314-06:002014-10-23T20:16:10.314-06:00This shit about "saving dolphins" is an ...This shit about "saving dolphins" is an obscene—and calculated—misrepresentation of what lawyers do. The authors of those ads—yes, ads: they're nothing but commercial solicitations—know damn well that lawyers are almost never involved in defending cute and cuddly animals.<br /><br />Old GuyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com