tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post2783163145036780310..comments2024-03-28T10:56:31.720-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: The Nature of the ArgumentUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-59789832805927457462013-11-15T11:02:29.390-07:002013-11-15T11:02:29.390-07:00Never mind I googled it. He is at a private firm....Never mind I googled it. He is at a private firm..LawDadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-15793811190956888352013-11-15T11:01:34.894-07:002013-11-15T11:01:34.894-07:00Can you explain the difference to me I believe you...Can you explain the difference to me I believe you would call it a private mid-sized firm. Not sure what you mean by captive office?LawDadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-9668184108149573302013-11-15T06:25:08.357-07:002013-11-15T06:25:08.357-07:00Well, he did the bloggers free PDF versions to rev...Well, he did the bloggers free PDF versions to review.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-47356621245896867682013-11-15T02:14:48.578-07:002013-11-15T02:14:48.578-07:008:21, is your son at a private firm or a captive o...8:21, is your son at a private firm or a captive office? If it's the latter he should get the hell out while he is young and can still make a career change. More and more I am seeing folks who built up decent incomes over years at captive offices get axed in favor of recent grads who will work for peanuts just to have any job. They might no be as good trial lawyers, but the insurers just build it into their underwriting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-62774993138128551092013-11-15T01:47:48.304-07:002013-11-15T01:47:48.304-07:00Great thread, great comments. I'm hoping for a...Great thread, great comments. I'm hoping for a new post by Friday at noon, but that depends on the distinguished contributors to this website.<br /><br />Sometimes I'm amazed at how much momentum is now driving the reform movement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-74580610848280479252013-11-15T01:35:57.710-07:002013-11-15T01:35:57.710-07:00Rereading the post, I'm somewhat surprised tha...Rereading the post, I'm somewhat surprised that Keith wanted to decide who does or does not get to read his book. Hey buddy, if you write it, anyone gets to read it. And anyone gets to review it.<br /><br />That just shows that Keith isn't used to participating in a free market in ideas. He doesn't hear opposing ideas anywhere near enough to have a sound opinion on anything. His book isn't genuine advice so much as extended bragging about his own success.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-2327713187604958702013-11-15T01:25:27.894-07:002013-11-15T01:25:27.894-07:00To 9:35,
That post didn't demean evening stud...To 9:35,<br /><br />That post didn't demean evening students as inferior. I did, however, detect a suggestion that graduates of ABA-unaccredited institutions can't be considered experts.<br /><br />Keith doesn't represent evening students in any way. He's doing this on his own, just to make money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-38197401453323454722013-11-15T01:21:17.044-07:002013-11-15T01:21:17.044-07:00That's a great idea: you get to discharge your...That's a great idea: you get to discharge your debt, but have to give up any hopes of being an attorney. A sweet bargain for those who can't find attorney jobs.<br /><br />Now, how do we get 50 state bars to keep out the bankrupt attorneys?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-89414020924978331802013-11-14T20:36:33.544-07:002013-11-14T20:36:33.544-07:00I think you should stop giving this guy any more c...I think you should stop giving this guy any more coverage here. He is looking for any publicity - good or bad. Why do you think he put his cowardly disclaimer on his blog about who should not buy his book? He's trolling you all - plain and simple. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-3494748716498299562013-11-14T19:52:26.968-07:002013-11-14T19:52:26.968-07:00I sometimes wonder why you are even giving Keith a...I sometimes wonder why you are even giving Keith and his book any attention. He just wants publicity - good or bad. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-3526320444538613232013-11-14T19:41:43.126-07:002013-11-14T19:41:43.126-07:00What color are Nancy Leong's eyes?
Someone in...What color are Nancy Leong's eyes?<br /><br />Someone in the comments above mentioned her and I had never heard of her and so I googled her name and what lovely images appeared!<br /><br />I would say her eyes are sort of pale blue or pale gray?<br /><br />How could such a lovely young woman make anyone around here oppositional to whatever she could possibly say or write?<br /><br />And Stanford only ads to her credentials and overall loveliness. Sigh, said Charlie Brown.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-54198746337446239162013-11-14T19:25:10.798-07:002013-11-14T19:25:10.798-07:00Who Is Nancy Leong? I must look that name up, he ...Who Is Nancy Leong? I must look that name up, he said absently mindedly.<br /><br />It was a 50/50 shot at the author of the 2x wrong guess being a woman.<br /><br />I figured that if it is a woman she would be outraged and get all defensive as is shown here.<br /><br />If not, the male would quickly deny it. Kind of like the split the baby thing from the old king Salmon.<br /><br />Yup, the wrong accuser of Keith Lee can fry up the bacon and serve it up in a pan.<br /><br />But nope Nancy Long or whatever the name is, is not me. And tweedly dee dum and tweedly dee dee to thee.<br /><br />Women: Can't live with them or without them. <br /><br />As the Wife of Bath said: the thing a woman desires most is absolute and complete control. However, the Wife of Bath was a bit more logical and methodical than you.<br /><br />I want to help you really. Can I help in any way before you flail around and possibly create paranoia about people that have never posted remarks here so far and insofar as I know?<br /><br />Send you a gift certificate for a nail salon maybe? (Sorry about the up front adverts in the following :)<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d7vAbKTmus<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-8541476870018022482013-11-14T19:15:08.663-07:002013-11-14T19:15:08.663-07:00Charles Cooper, why won't you post the comment...Charles Cooper, why won't you post the comment by Nancy Leong about all the personal attacks that exist on this blog:<br />http://www.feministlawprofessors.com/2013/11/identity-ideas/<br /><br />The comments below include lots of personal attacks as well. Why suppress criticism?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-17579203171713419492013-11-14T14:08:09.847-07:002013-11-14T14:08:09.847-07:00Its really simply a game of musical chairs. Some ...Its really simply a game of musical chairs. Some people are simply not going to have any chairs. The system is still working for those who are gainfully employed. So remember, whether the system is broken depends on your perspective. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-48330512252885731142013-11-14T13:39:18.728-07:002013-11-14T13:39:18.728-07:00I am, yet again, learning a new area of the law as...I am, yet again, learning a new area of the law as I chase that almighty dollar. OK, I'm not chasing dollars as much as trying to pay the mortgage and put food on the table. I'm doing both, so I got that going for me. <br /><br />Law school takes so much and gives so little. <br /><br />How many of us have looked back to our school outlines, class notes, and the like once we graduated, passed the bar exam, started working and thought, what the fuck were we doing in that class? It is so utterly disconnected to anything we lawyers actually do on a day to day basis. It continues to amaze me.Crux of lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06572986619859564280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-41391551140561873172013-11-14T13:34:22.092-07:002013-11-14T13:34:22.092-07:00With five years under your belt, you not only have...With five years under your belt, you not only have more experience than all of the tenured profs, you likely have twice as much as all of them do. <br /><br />Seriously. Read their CVs sometimes. Eighteen months in private practice is common.Crux of lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06572986619859564280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-30513218957610810552013-11-14T13:25:52.176-07:002013-11-14T13:25:52.176-07:00Could be keith causing trouble again.
Or it could...Could be keith causing trouble again.<br /><br />Or it could be nancy leong seeding more anonymous comments to write articles about. Odd how this unique attack on women occurred just after she started fussing about us on her feminists professor blog. She was scraping the bottom of the barrel there already with her conclusions and she clearly needs some actual sexist comments to write about. So she writes them herself then plays the victim. What a clever way to create scholarship! Seed the problem then write about how much her sock puppets are hurting her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-41823846623114126022013-11-14T12:42:44.173-07:002013-11-14T12:42:44.173-07:00So the mortgage crisis was only broken when the ma...So the mortgage crisis was only broken when the market crashed?<br /><br />In other words, the symptoms are often not contemporaneous with the cause. Does one only have cancer when one coughs up blood, or does the problem actually exist two years earlier when the shadow can be seen on the X-ray?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-4416152111263645742013-11-14T12:04:32.545-07:002013-11-14T12:04:32.545-07:00Out-of-nowhere, incongrouous, demeaning attitude t...Out-of-nowhere, incongrouous, demeaning attitude towards women, as if "being a woman" is itself an insult? Naw, that never happens in Alabama.<br /><br />Nice try at deflection, Keith, but you've got a tell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-77845109273782719042013-11-14T09:53:16.766-07:002013-11-14T09:53:16.766-07:00If people were getting jobs and making money, the ...If people were getting jobs and making money, the system by definition was not broken. But law in and of itseld has aleays been a lousy profession filled with narcissists, sociopaths and egomaniacs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-3588458339101110082013-11-14T09:21:05.108-07:002013-11-14T09:21:05.108-07:00Great comments, my son is a insurance defense lawy...Great comments, my son is a insurance defense lawyer and he can't stand it. I only wish I could have been more knowledgeable about the scam blog movement before he went to law school. Many might consider him to be one of the lucky one's but he's looking for what is next on his plate, and it may not be the law. Sad because he is good at it!LawDadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-14064759570914874972013-11-14T06:43:49.614-07:002013-11-14T06:43:49.614-07:00When prospective students figure out that the past...When prospective students figure out that the past predicts the future, then the scam is finished for good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-32174628635525470242013-11-14T06:10:33.257-07:002013-11-14T06:10:33.257-07:00^^^Boy oh boy are you smart and I'm proud of y...^^^Boy oh boy are you smart and I'm proud of you!<br /><br />Unfortunately you guessed wrong and twice now and it is not Keith Lee and if anything you should grant Lee the benefit of the doubt and say you are sorry for being paranoid.<br /><br />I hope you gather your evidence more carefully and before use in real life.<br /><br />But women do tend to do jump to conclusions (with all due respect) and we must be tolerant (graciously so) and bear up as best we can and allow them to feel important and expressive sometimes (in spite of their intellectual shortcomings)<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-22794662136816964272013-11-14T00:30:11.439-07:002013-11-14T00:30:11.439-07:00"hen everyone was making money, people assume..."hen everyone was making money, people assumed the system was working just fine. The reality was that the system was already broken, but the fact that people were making money hid this fact."<br /><br />I liked this observation almost as much as the original post.Antirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13353794908230833127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-71712230685185333902013-11-13T22:35:06.899-07:002013-11-13T22:35:06.899-07:00"The Marble and The Sculptor is not for peopl..."The Marble and The Sculptor is not for people who want to blame others for their lot in life. It is not for people who want to cry over spilled milk. It is not for people who want to whine about being scammed."<br /><br />Yeah. If you've already been scammed, it's best not to further ruin your life by blaming yourself. Fake it and put on a good show. Pretend you enjoy it.<br /><br />But if you're thinking of Law School..... Don't. <br /><br />These blogs are aimed at people who are considering law school. We don't want to have another generation tempted to blame someone else.... Rather, we want them never to make that mistake to begin with. And yes... don't cry over spilled milk. Don't have spilled milk in the first place. And certainly, don't ever whine about being scammed. Read some Charles Cooper, and avoid the whole scam in the first place. <br /><br /><br />You have been served a shit sandwich. Those of you at the table may want consider a list of a few condiments that you can sprinkle on that shit sandwich to make it easier to eat.<br /><br />But don't line up in the cafeteria to buy a shit sandwich.<br /><br />Don't think of closing law schools as vindictive or bitter. Rather, it's a patriotic move to support this country's administration of justice. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com