tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post2156015222864316526..comments2024-03-28T10:56:31.720-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: CounterPoint #2: Take responsibility for your 250k debtUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-3739298446661967502013-07-30T09:11:52.314-06:002013-07-30T09:11:52.314-06:00Problem is that big law does not always lead to a ...Problem is that big law does not always lead to a career position - at least one that pays anything decent and is not a fly by night eat what you kill position. There are tons of former federal clerks. Fifteen or so years out of law school, federal clerk and big law means nothing if you are out of work. There are tons of super credentialed people just like you and also out of work also applying for a limited number of career lawyer jobs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-36543443864364768242013-07-30T07:15:29.669-06:002013-07-30T07:15:29.669-06:00A clerkship leads to big law.A clerkship leads to big law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-86052764184636904222013-07-30T02:23:46.442-06:002013-07-30T02:23:46.442-06:00?
When I first read Preston's posts, I though...?<br /><br />When I first read Preston's posts, I thought it was you, LSTC! <br /><br />Everyone, go visit LSTC's blog, Law School Scam!, listed on the right hand side of this blog.<br /><br />It's almost identical to Preston's writing. LSTC, I think that Preston has ripped you off!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-72681867932568639022013-07-29T18:48:36.017-06:002013-07-29T18:48:36.017-06:00Many lawyers work longer than a few years. Proble...Many lawyers work longer than a few years. Problem is that the jobs are so unstable today, you never know how long your job will last. Once you are older and lose a job, it is many times harder to land on your feet than for a younger person.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-29248036603238057112013-07-29T17:47:41.295-06:002013-07-29T17:47:41.295-06:00Way to steal my shtick.Way to steal my shtick.Law School Truth Centerhttp://www.lawschoolscam.com/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-40918123484934345532013-07-29T16:10:57.555-06:002013-07-29T16:10:57.555-06:00Here's what needs to be spread:
1.) Only hal...Here's what needs to be spread:<br /><br />1.) Only half the grads get any job out of law school<br /><br />2.) Those jobs have a 3-4 year shelf-life, max, and are miserable. They're a combination of Survivor-like competition and being treated like a rental car in the hands of a college kid for the weekend. <br /><br />3.) For people who have been in the legal pipeline for some time, career prospects have been awful and atrocious for some time. There's no retirement, benefits or pensions. For today's grads, there is no such thing as a career.<br /><br />In short, building any type of job, business, career plan or life on the rapidly eroding base of law is simply a bad plan. The fact that you don't know what else you can do... or even that there may be nothing else for you to do... doesn't justify your going into law.<br /><br />It's time to call this Beyond the Law School scam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-9549641525362682812013-07-29T14:49:58.550-06:002013-07-29T14:49:58.550-06:00Yes, because most of the jobs first years are plac...Yes, because most of the jobs first years are placed by top schools in are at big law or clerkships or other non-career positions. Big law is up or out. Clerkships are only for a year or two. People gradually lose these jobs or age out of these jobs and there are not enough replacement jobs. <br /><br />I have been in biglaw for years - half the people leaving today leave without jobs in my city and my firms.<br /><br />My colleagues who either went to top law schools or were at the top of their classes at secondary law schools - many, many are unemployed after big law. <br /><br />These are all experienced lawyers. Not first years and some have lots of experience and some only a few months, and others in between. Usually big law, but some big in house jobs and some U.S. Attorney's office as well. Many people I know from Harvard and Yale Law on down do not have jobs and want jobs.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-53794771212530400772013-07-29T14:40:35.998-06:002013-07-29T14:40:35.998-06:00Of course its not serious. Perhaps it's an exa...Of course its not serious. Perhaps it's an example of the "Socratic Method" (I never went to law school so I'm not sure). <br /><br />But the true extent of how dismal job prospects in the legal industry still isn't widely known. Most parents would still be very happy for their kids to attend law school for example. But people are catching on fast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-12530464775865285482013-07-29T13:24:24.519-06:002013-07-29T13:24:24.519-06:00Fair enough.Fair enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-50548399414147779922013-07-29T10:30:55.222-06:002013-07-29T10:30:55.222-06:00If this article is serious, the author should be t...If this article is serious, the author should be taken off this blog immediately. Mods? Can you check up on this?<br /><br />What next? Leiter blogging here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-57493775587797312932013-07-29T09:57:25.770-06:002013-07-29T09:57:25.770-06:00Do you really believe people from top law schools ...Do you really believe people from top law schools can't find decent jobs? Evidence?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-54776472367699268892013-07-29T09:46:07.966-06:002013-07-29T09:46:07.966-06:00I agree with one thing: childhood is being lengthe...I agree with one thing: childhood is being lengthened ridiculously these days. 22 year olds really should be seen as adults and encouraged to think of themselves that way. When you hear of guys in their mid twenties doing stupid things nowadays, people say "oh poor kid he didn't know better."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-36789246507634444352013-07-29T09:42:33.680-06:002013-07-29T09:42:33.680-06:00The author probably isn't sure himself.The author probably isn't sure himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-13752716392148048222013-07-29T08:28:39.739-06:002013-07-29T08:28:39.739-06:00The scam is not only about people who went to law ...The scam is not only about people who went to law school in the last 4 or 5 years.<br /><br />Lots of people went to law school before the days of the internet, when law school was much less costly and even when the legal profession was not oversaturated. Lots of law grads have no law school debt.<br /><br />However, many of these people, even from the best law schools and with years of prime legal experience cannot earn a living practicing law now. The scam of overenrolling law students and producing a huge oversupply of lawyers hit them the same way it hit first years. The only difference is that the lawyers who went to law school earlier were able to work for a few or several years before the lawyer oversupply killed their jobs and their careers.<br /><br />Bottom line- many experienced lawyers are permanently out of work because of the scam. If it hit you at age 35 or 45 or 55 and you cannot do any type of work, other than retail with your top credentials and top law degree, what are you to do? You think people I am describing should blame themselves?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-49544001771611137052013-07-29T07:54:45.229-06:002013-07-29T07:54:45.229-06:00this kind of article gives the wrong message. it ...this kind of article gives the wrong message. it should be deleted. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-41794617430687661022013-07-29T06:13:03.293-06:002013-07-29T06:13:03.293-06:00Really bad schtick. Not well written enough to be...Really bad schtick. Not well written enough to be satire, just comes across as douchey.<br /><br />Can we get back to the usual non-confusing posts please? This is one of the worst I've read on this site.<br /><br />Or I hope it's schtick. It's so badly written that I just don't know. And if I can't tell, perhaps it's also sending the wrong message to other applicants?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-78673594167171284122013-07-29T05:18:05.269-06:002013-07-29T05:18:05.269-06:00Satire? Hard to tell.Satire? Hard to tell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com