tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post1772936959601321904..comments2024-03-28T07:16:35.912-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: LSATs administered continues to dropUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-43041052598230629642013-11-05T18:17:42.642-07:002013-11-05T18:17:42.642-07:00Law professors are human filth.Law professors are human filth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-70948581981111723372013-11-04T22:08:57.634-07:002013-11-04T22:08:57.634-07:00I posted at 08:57 and everything I said was true. ...I posted at 08:57 and everything I said was true. He really has no clue how bad it is for the rest of us. That's not meant as a defense. I think a lot of these "people" are like the ostrich. I knew some of them at my TTT. They mostly hated their students while greedily sucking down their money. I suspect that's the experience many of us Toileteers had. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-52934617778382829102013-11-04T19:14:29.060-07:002013-11-04T19:14:29.060-07:00Good work. Keep spreading the truth.... which is ...Good work. Keep spreading the truth.... which is that the 'problem' is profession-wide. It's not just BigLaw suffering because of the Great Recession. It's not simply recent grads who "can't get first jobs".<br /><br />The law schools overproduced for so long that it's created a situation in which it's unsustainable to earn a living. That runs throughout the legal 'profession' and ruins lives across the spectrum. The 50-year old lawyer is equally adversely affected by the law schools as the 25-year-old.<br /><br />Law Schools have so much to answer for. Depriving them of many naive young victims is a good start. But the remedy must be far, far more potent. <br /><br />Any of the so-called "top 100" law schools today that has not voluntarily trimmed its enrollment by at least 33% in response to today's market is both (a) scamming and (b) undermining the administration of justice. These schools are destroying our fellow citizens and destroying the system of justice in our country at the same time. Treat them accordingly.<br /><br />The gloves should start coming off. Comparing them to human waste and toilets was kind. That's all biodegradeable. This is radioactive waste. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-62039598885814715162013-11-04T15:43:26.902-07:002013-11-04T15:43:26.902-07:00"He has a lot of free time, and I know he per..."He has a lot of free time, and I know he personally despises his students. He thinks of them as lazy, slobby and personally entitled."<br /><br />Yep. This.<br /><br />Meanwhile, he contributes nothing. Takes from a large base of people. That's where his salary comes from. All the Little People. And is building a pension to boot. It's wonderful they think they are above the public, all those people who pay their salary and the students. He's a net Taker on society (big) and yet thinks he's some God who, if he was in private practice, couldn't handle the hours, the work, or the stress.<br /><br />Teaching is Welfare for T10 grads. And the Lemmings are subsidizing jerk-offs just like him every day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-11876145885902571302013-11-04T15:30:39.685-07:002013-11-04T15:30:39.685-07:00Yes, just as "Westminster" is missing a ...Yes, just as "Westminster" is missing a second "i"... It's funny how these things work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-5393240139017031882013-11-04T15:09:37.925-07:002013-11-04T15:09:37.925-07:00Aquila non captat muscas. Aquila non captat muscas. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-55392826140510447382013-11-04T14:41:26.547-07:002013-11-04T14:41:26.547-07:00The more the sun shines, the more we all get to se...The more the sun shines, the more we all get to see how truly dark the system is/was. If only there were more decent people, the changes would happen much quicker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-72365214572102775132013-11-04T11:39:01.746-07:002013-11-04T11:39:01.746-07:00Economists, etc. can make a literal fortune in the...Economists, etc. can make a literal fortune in the expert witness field. Other than Tax Consulting by legal experts in that field, I really can't think of anything that a Law Prof would have to sell in the expert witness field. After all, legal issues are typically resolved by Judges, not fact-finders, so their legal "opinions" have no relevance in a Court Room. So how would they make extra money unless they were actually allowed to practice law on the side?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-36360790405230352192013-11-04T10:01:47.985-07:002013-11-04T10:01:47.985-07:00This is excellent news, as the general public is s...This is excellent news, as the general public is starting to catch onto the law school scam. Thank all of you for your involvement in getting the message out to lemmings.Nandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06423524039657355134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-50444309455519224622013-11-04T09:57:54.740-07:002013-11-04T09:57:54.740-07:00I know a T10 law prof who sends his kids to exclus...I know a T10 law prof who sends his kids to exclusive private schools, takes exotic vacations with his children and drives the latest Japanese and European sports sedans. He works at a public law school, and I looked up his salary once. In 2007 it was $250K. I don't know what it would be now.<br /><br />He has a lot of free time, and I know he personally despises his students. He thinks of them as lazy, slobby and personally entitled.<br /><br />Oh, and he has a Yacht. Not just a 22 foot boat. A real Yacht. A 50+ footer with navigation, air conditioning, 4 bedrooms, a full kitchen, everything.<br /><br />So you future Lemmings really need to think about whether you want to continue to subsidize this man's lifestyle or whether your talents and energies would be better spent in some other profession.<br /><br />Don't think you will wind up like him because the vast (95%+) majority of you will not never make anything close to what he makes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-35190256596248301822013-11-04T09:40:26.142-07:002013-11-04T09:40:26.142-07:00Well, I'll add my own pathetic quibble here-- ...Well, I'll add my own pathetic quibble here-- the word "administered" is missing an "i" in the title.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-49898369766896757722013-11-04T09:25:28.797-07:002013-11-04T09:25:28.797-07:00LawProf and Mack (and probably many others) have l...LawProf and Mack (and probably many others) have long said that law school needs to cost half as much and graduate half as many students than the current amount (so 22.5K instead of 45K). If it did, students would graduate with less than $100K debt and almost everyone who passed the bar would be able to find some sort of legal job.<br /><br />I would argue that the debt-load is still too high for the 40-60K jobs that most graduates would get in such a hypothetical future, but that goes to show how unacceptable the current situation is.Antirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13353794908230833127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-49665376634060202302013-11-04T09:24:50.599-07:002013-11-04T09:24:50.599-07:00Op back. Here's the thing, a law prof making 8...Op back. Here's the thing, a law prof making 80,000 could likely - if he or she tried, had a brain, etc - make extra money consulting or working on the side. Of course, a prof couldn't do this with "law and the open road" studies, but in other ways more related to practice. Even with lower salaries, profs could still be quite well off if they did a little side work - that's my point.<br /><br />Anyone have any idea how much law profs can make if they tried side work? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-13444642147730141222013-11-04T08:43:31.449-07:002013-11-04T08:43:31.449-07:00It's becoming obvious that those professors ha...It's becoming obvious that those professors have standards, but not academic standards. Theirs are the standards of conspicuous consumption, of buying things not because they want them but because their peers and neighbors want them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-77107749882286753912013-11-04T08:31:33.717-07:002013-11-04T08:31:33.717-07:00It's funny and ironic that those debtmongering...It's funny and ironic that those debtmongering creeps often have huge mortgages on their own homes. For them, it isn't enough to make huge amounts of money. No, they have to pretend that they make even more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-16644707591134224842013-11-04T08:29:19.804-07:002013-11-04T08:29:19.804-07:00I really need for LSAT administrators bring back t...I really need for LSAT administrators bring back the "LSAT for watch-makers." Cause, really, that's what this is now tantamount to. "Got to a Nationally Ranked School and be practice-ready to fix pocket watches and chains when you graduate." This whole thing is like watching the dinosaurs look at the sky wondering why the sky is dusty and darkening... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-58529044102625025052013-11-04T08:18:59.270-07:002013-11-04T08:18:59.270-07:00I think if LawProfs made $75-125k over the bulk of...I think if LawProfs made $75-125k over the bulk of their careers (not saying there is no room for higher salaries, but it would be a slow climb), and half the students were accepted from now on, then the scambloggers would probably all go home for the most part.<br /><br />As it stands, making these paltry salaries would relegate LawProfs to the (DUM DUM DUM! *ORCHESTRA PUNCH CORD*!) Middle Class (GASP!), so no, don't look for it to happen anytime soon. <br /><br />These folks have standards to maintain, you see. And standards don't pay for themselves.dupednontraditionalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170022654810216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-39408634170852485822013-11-04T08:16:51.837-07:002013-11-04T08:16:51.837-07:00Remember, even some top institutions, such as Harv...Remember, even some top institutions, such as Harvard and Northwestern, have decided to cut admissions in order to maintain their cognitive standards. I think downsizing in every tier is going to define the new environment. Any institution--maybe NYU?--that tries to stay the same size is going to see some serious decay in its prestige, upon which its market dries up forever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-41883044314292275262013-11-04T07:52:49.827-07:002013-11-04T07:52:49.827-07:00They get away with it by focusing on you, the stud...They get away with it by focusing on you, the student. There is no one but you.<br /><br />To get you to attend, they convince you that you have no competitors. Hundreds of jobs are waiting just for you, and you can take your pick. Then, in your third year in their depression factory, they turn it against you. If you haven't secured a job, it can't be because they promised the same thing to 150,000 other students. No, it's because you're inadequate.<br /><br />That's how, at every turn, they divert your attention away from the rotten, unjust system they've created to profit from their inferior product. When there's a bad outcome, they just count their money and get you to hate your own image, your own identity. They think that has to be enough to keep you quiet. It worked before, didn't it? It's worked in other contexts for the past 50 years, hasn't it?<br /><br />And then you read about how dirty the system is, and you won't back down any more. So they pretend you're crazy, and they try to harass you any way they can. And it's okay, because you're crazy, so you're not human. Then you stand up for your rights, refuse to accept an inferior position in society, and focus again on the unjust system of deception, debt, and bondage.<br /><br />That's when admissions testing drops by 50% in 3 years, and they start to do some serious sweating aboiut their future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-79400373529139945922013-11-04T06:58:00.702-07:002013-11-04T06:58:00.702-07:00No 55 schools, each with much smaller than present...No 55 schools, each with much smaller than present enrollment.<br /><br />A crash diet is the only thing that's going to save the profession, and by extension the administration of justice.<br /><br />The free market must be an educated market in order for the principles to work. Keep up the good work. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-79685094109983757822013-11-04T05:16:21.478-07:002013-11-04T05:16:21.478-07:00Or maybe 150 schools and much smaller enrollment?
...Or maybe 150 schools and much smaller enrollment?<br /><br />Or maybe all the 200 or so schools stay in business but only operate with very small enrollment?<br /><br />Maybe it doesn't work that way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-29512771543837561132013-11-04T04:46:56.219-07:002013-11-04T04:46:56.219-07:00If most law profs earned $70-90,000 per year, woul...If most law profs earned $70-90,000 per year, would the law school scam even exist?<br /><br />They demand double and triple this, and they demand students pay their salaries. In exchange, law professors provide a pack of lies about bright career prospects and useless training.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-2290391955309005942013-11-04T00:46:36.532-07:002013-11-04T00:46:36.532-07:00Everyone knows that we can't comment on the de...Everyone knows that we can't comment on the debt-funded tuition scam if we don't phrase everything with correct grammar and perfect precision. Otherwise, some humanities professor who's profiting from the scam can make us appear to be ignorant fanatics. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-14683269739786222862013-11-03T21:46:26.660-07:002013-11-03T21:46:26.660-07:00Pathetic quibbling. As per Anon at 6:06, perfectly...Pathetic quibbling. As per Anon at 6:06, perfectly OK to treat "LSATs administered" as a singular category. Especially in a headline.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-22695018608077349412013-11-03T21:24:06.974-07:002013-11-03T21:24:06.974-07:00The pedant is attacking the title.
I actually don...The pedant is attacking the title.<br /><br />I actually don't believe it is improper. "LSATs administered" is a single statistic, so it's the equivalent of saying "The number of LSATs administered continues to drop." The test itself isn't dropping anything; and saying "LSATs administered continue to drop" leaves an ambiguity that maybe you are referring to individual LSAT test scores. In fact, I would argue treating LSATs are a plural subject would be improper.<br /><br />You can leave a subject implied in a title. It doesn't make it improper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com