tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post1184796346455999733..comments2024-03-27T20:23:56.493-06:00Comments on Outside the Law School Scam: Brooklyn Law School Dean Nicholas Allard writes smug and jokey law review article bragging about how he refused to allow a nine-year-old girl to have a pet dog. Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-77304405783373330292015-11-09T08:40:50.247-07:002015-11-09T08:40:50.247-07:00Mr Allard is an example of what can happen when a ...Mr Allard is an example of what can happen when a law school hires a lobbyist (not a practicing lawyer) to be the spokesperson and Dean. The faculty are responsible for their own mess..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-28782624899208202732015-09-28T06:58:38.079-06:002015-09-28T06:58:38.079-06:00Nicholas Allard is clearly a sociopath.Nicholas Allard is clearly a sociopath.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-38360978864894371322015-09-28T06:57:17.500-06:002015-09-28T06:57:17.500-06:00It happened in 2005. There were several people in ...It happened in 2005. There were several people in their 50s and 60s attrnding my toilet. Unless they had a guaranteed "in" at a law firm, there was no way they would be ever be practicing law. Law schools regularly admit people who have little chance of practicing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-51926317792059547232015-09-27T22:33:55.623-06:002015-09-27T22:33:55.623-06:00Amen.
Amen. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-57248801283717347572015-09-27T22:29:05.228-06:002015-09-27T22:29:05.228-06:00I don't think that most law professors are bot...I don't think that most law professors are both narcissists and sociopaths. For example, Nancy Leong has been misleading students and ruining their lives along with the worst of them. She doesn't seem the least bit ashamed of enjoying her ill-gotten wealth and leisure. Yet I don't see any evidence for sociopathy in her behavior. Narcissism, definitely. Entitlement, sure. Moral obtuseness, that goes without saying. Yet I don't see the sadism and sociopathy in her that I see in Brian Leiter.<br /><br />In fact, Nancy Leong's shockingly immoral action in bringing false ethics charges against a brilliant and well-informed commentator can be fully explained by the phenomenon known as narcissistic rage. Combined with her narcissistic appropriation of feminism as a supposedly decisive issue in her favor in any and every controversy, that paralyzed her moral reasoning and left her easy prey for Leiter's greasy, ugly, immoral, manipulative, and self-serving coaching. <br /><br />Nancy Leong's career appears to have been permanently tarnished and perhaps even destroyed by the shameful and ridiculous "Dybbuk" incident. However, the sadistic, destructive, inhuman, and casually immoral impulses behind it originated with Brian Leiter himself. Those impulses are too ugly for me to attribute them lightly to an entire class of people. <br /><br />My own guess is that there are no more than 15 people in the law school scam who are both truly narcissistic and truly sociopathic. We've met many of them, but not all of them, on the pages of this blog. These are people who are not only narcissistic enough to fake their way to the top of legal academia. They are also sociopathic enough to lie frequently and without conscience, and then devise schemes to harm, threaten, defame, and destroy anyone who challenges their lies. I'd claim that that's a rare combination, and that Leiter and Allard are both uniquely pathological personalities, each of them a "rara avis" or rare bird in his own predatory way.<br /><br />It's fascinating to find these unusual creatures, and I look forward to seeing more of them displayed on this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-37966666007061039752015-09-27T20:43:07.602-06:002015-09-27T20:43:07.602-06:00I just went outside and looked at the "super ...I just went outside and looked at the "super blood moon," which won't happen again until 2033.<br /><br />Somehow, it reminded me of all the blood, mostly figurative but occasionally literal, that the greedy scamprofs and corrupt scamdeans have on their hands. How many indebted students have committed suicide because of this unconscionable scam? That kind of blood doesn't wash off. It leaves a permanent stain on the soul.<br /><br />I'd imagine that Allard has nightmares about bloody corpses, symbolizing all the lives he's ruined and continues to ruin. I wouldn't trade places with him for anything this world can offer. <br />He won't realize the full horror of what he's done until he faces a final judgment at the bar of Almighty God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-49127213274509166532015-09-27T17:45:57.040-06:002015-09-27T17:45:57.040-06:00I'm looking forward to the day that Simple Jac...I'm looking forward to the day that Simple Jack (Ben Stiller from Tropic Thunder) gets into law school (See youtube, Simple Jack Trailer). I'm sure it's coming.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-886765484387022582015-09-26T23:13:16.992-06:002015-09-26T23:13:16.992-06:00Yes, I can see that my use of the term "trap...Yes, I can see that my use of the term "trap" deviates from Paul Campos's three characteristic test. I suppose I used "trap" in a broader sense to mean that the school has historically managed to attract a far better credentialed class than it has the right to, given what it has to offer. For instance, in 2011, Brooklyn's job placement record was below 50%, but its median LSAT was 163, same as Arizona State and Chapel HIll. <br />dybbuk123https://www.blogger.com/profile/08142974443119061724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-50591571767944916472015-09-26T21:06:10.399-06:002015-09-26T21:06:10.399-06:00Yes, it was Campos:
http://insidethelawschoolscam...Yes, it was Campos:<br /><br />http://insidethelawschoolscam.blogspot.ca/2012/02/trap-schools.html<br /><br />His criteria for a trap school:<br /><br />(1) It's expensive to attend.<br /><br /> (2) It's located in what the sort of people who go to law school tend to consider a desirable place to live (obviously these first two factors are related).<br /><br /> (3) It has superficially attractive employment and salary statistics.<br /><br />Crooklyn certainly satisfies (1) (which law school doesn't?) and (2). But not (3). <br /><br />Campos's trap schools fall into the third tier or the very top of the fourth tier, by Old Guy's criteria. Recall that my third tier—schools such as Georgetown and USC—is decidedly dodgy and that my fourth tier should be avoided altogether. So I advise against the likes of Fordham and George Washington, even though they may not be quite so horrible as Brooklyn.<br /><br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-71043538459168892282015-09-26T20:28:39.589-06:002015-09-26T20:28:39.589-06:00"Allard is extremely unusual in that he's..."Allard is extremely unusual in that he's very much a narcissist and very much a sociopath"<br /><br />What's so unusual about that? Allard is just like many academics. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-54817167854414856972015-09-26T16:43:40.670-06:002015-09-26T16:43:40.670-06:00I think Campos gave the classic definition of a tr...I think Campos gave the classic definition of a trap school about 3 years ago. Part of his definition was that employment outcomes are good enough to create a false perception of low risk in the minds of applicants. His examples at the time were Fordham, USC, and George Washington. <br /><br />So Brooklyn, or American or Hastings for that matter, really aren't even good enough to be trap schools. However, they do meet another qualification, namely their location in cities that law students see as trendy and fun.<br /><br />My advice to any prospective law student would be not to attend Brooklyn or American under any circumstances. At least hold out for semi-legitimate trap schools like Fordham or George Washington. Insist on genuine financial aid as well, meaning no loans. You most likely can't repay them coming out of a trap school.<br /><br />And for California, avoid Hastings and hold out for Boalt Hall at Berkeley. Yes, the West Coast is that competitive. If you can't get into Boalt, you were never meant to practice law in California.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-66336909569621088092015-09-26T10:22:16.652-06:002015-09-26T10:22:16.652-06:00Which is why I gave him the sobriquet All Lard.
Which is why I gave him the sobriquet All Lard.<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-26225454570314062752015-09-26T02:41:27.330-06:002015-09-26T02:41:27.330-06:00Which, due to Allard's heartlessness, the facu...Which, due to Allard's heartlessness, the faculty would not be able to simply "blame it on the dog."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-71702659095403938132015-09-26T00:41:05.058-06:002015-09-26T00:41:05.058-06:00Nando ran a photo of Allard a couple of years ago....Nando ran a photo of Allard a couple of years ago. I'll be damned if he isn't the most piglike human being I've ever seen. It'.s absolutely uncanny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-57937598675352059222015-09-25T14:26:18.597-06:002015-09-25T14:26:18.597-06:00Allard is extremely unusual in that he's very ...Allard is extremely unusual in that he's very much a narcissist and very much a sociopath. It's more "normal" in the world of psychopathology to lean towards one or the other. Allard, like others in our rogue's gallery, is literally one in a million. Very few people could do what he does. And very few people would want to do it, since it's morally depraved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-35959187723379523912015-09-25T10:39:25.107-06:002015-09-25T10:39:25.107-06:00Thanks loads. You made me spew orange soda all ove...Thanks loads. You made me spew orange soda all over my keyboard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-46072713673562824252015-09-25T10:20:16.851-06:002015-09-25T10:20:16.851-06:00I graduated from Law School in the HeyDay of the b...I graduated from Law School in the HeyDay of the boomers . . . mid eighties. I too had given up a good job to attend law school. I eventually landed on my feet and got into mid-law . . . but I have to admit that it was difficult at first. And it was a very depressing time until I found my way. I had virtually no loans to speak of at the time. So I can imagine what many of you younger people with large loans and limited opportunity are going through.<br /><br />What I recall about law-school is that so many of the Students were A**holes. I still enjoyed Law school and the friends I had there . . but many students were just unbearable.<br /><br />What I recall about working in law back then was that many lawyers were Narcissists. Nothing has changed since.<br /><br />Not sure what I am trying to say. I don't agree that there is still not potential for good lawyers to make it as solos today. It is far more difficult though then when I graduated because competing with the monster advertisers for business is not easy. You have to prove yourself able to get decent work and even then its tough.<br /><br />At any rate there is still opportunity out there. But you are entering a Profession where everybody is scrambling, where this is zero to little civility between attorneys and where, quite honestly, ethics is sorely lacking. The name of the game is winning the financial game. Everything else, including decency, is secondary when dealing with many in this profession. <br /><br />And I have been successful as a lawyer, especially financially. I can't complain. But looking back, I can't say that I would do it again. There is just not a lot of joy doing what we do day in and day out. Sometimes I can still get passionate about particular cases, but those days are rare.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-43831146411881679742015-09-25T07:18:59.254-06:002015-09-25T07:18:59.254-06:00Apparently, sociopathy and narcissism are legitima...Apparently, sociopathy and narcissism are legitimate BFOQ's for becoming a law dean. <br /><br />By that measure I'm not qualified, but then again I still have a small shred of a soul left. I probably come out ahead in the bargain, on balance.dupednontraditionalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170022654810216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-9603984587148293422015-09-25T06:45:44.637-06:002015-09-25T06:45:44.637-06:00Oh, you bet he is. I haven't seen this level o...Oh, you bet he is. I haven't seen this level of smugness and obvious duping delight in ... Forever.<br /><br />The thing is, at this point I tend to share his views of the idiots that go to law school. Anyone with half a brain is not going to law school. The Truth - that law school is a scam- has been widely disseminated for almost a decade now, so only the truely idiotic are attending now. <br /><br />Our mission should be larger - to destroy the lawyer brand rather than deter a few Lemmings. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-41784956301431619882015-09-25T02:37:41.758-06:002015-09-25T02:37:41.758-06:00Allard doesn't give a fig whether his students...Allard doesn't give a fig whether his students find jobs or pass the bar. The sole purpose of that commentary is to attract students to Brooklyn who feel ashamed of their low LSAT scores. That just happens to be Brooklyn's new admission strategy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-26979550719635227782015-09-24T22:04:37.342-06:002015-09-24T22:04:37.342-06:00Just today that odious scamster All Lard published...Just today that odious scamster All Lard published in <i>The New York Times</i> a criticism of the bar exams, which in his not exactly unprejudiced view are an evil monopoly's ploy to keep deserving Crooklyn toileteers from becoming lawyers.<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-90975907961689225312015-09-24T19:57:38.655-06:002015-09-24T19:57:38.655-06:00All Lard lost an argument with a spoiled urban nin...All Lard lost an argument with a spoiled urban nine-year-old. Apparently the intellectual deficiency at Crooklyn isn't confined to the student body.<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-50704599071171160652015-09-24T19:54:23.211-06:002015-09-24T19:54:23.211-06:00"Daphne tried to warn Percival about indulgin..."Daphne tried to warn Percival about indulging in beluga caviar and Champagne at the mid-afternoon off-site party, but he just wouldn't be told."<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-29418151234354154292015-09-24T19:42:28.977-06:002015-09-24T19:42:28.977-06:00Like PresTTTige, I don't agree that Crooklyn r...Like PresTTTige, I don't agree that Crooklyn rises to the shabby dignity of a trap school. It's just a plain old toilet.<br />Old Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02399124824529778710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3660083024919144793.post-74557793157706369762015-09-24T17:39:56.296-06:002015-09-24T17:39:56.296-06:00Is Allard finally in the pantheon with Leisure Sui...Is Allard finally in the pantheon with Leisure Suit Larry Mitchell and the Valvoline Dean, et. al., yet?<br /><br />I think he might be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com